[keithatpda]

Do you have any issues with mobile1? Ive heard from 2 subaru specialty shops to not use mobile 1 brand for subarus specifically. I have always ran mobile1 in my past cars so this was a surprise. Something about it just doesnt work well with the subaru engine.

I have heard similar things re Mobile 1, I doubt they are true. Castrol promote the 5-30 as "for" high performance turbo cars. Castrol have a pretty good race car reputation, if you are stressing the car a bit, autocross or similar, I would change the oil once a month, otherwise 3,000 sounds good to me.

 

[arkenzo]

Kirkland 5w30


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[Tifosi]

Do you have any issues with mobile1? Ive heard from 2 subaru specialty shops to not use mobile 1 brand for subarus specifically. I have always ran mobile1 in my past cars so this was a surprise. Something about it just doesnt work well with the subaru engine.

I too have read those type of claim on the forums and on FB. And all of them starts with “I heard from person X……” but no one has any solid, conclusive evidence as to why or how. This goes back to the video I posted, motor oil is the equivalent to politics and religion. Until someone can show me an actual long term engineering study that isolates the usage of Mobil 1 as the single cause of engine failure on multiple engines. I have no reason to not use Mobil 1.

 

[magnetite2020sti]

I think the key thing here is change and check your oil on consistent basis…

 

[yamahaSHO]

Spend time on www.bobistheoilguy.com. It's not politics, it's data. I sample my oils so that I can choose or stick with an oil based upon those results.

 

[Tifosi]

Spend time on www.bobistheoilguy.com. It's not politics, it's data. I sample my oils so that I can choose or stick with an oil based upon those results.

Oh no, not the BITOG site, I knew this is going to pop up here sooner or later. Let's just agree to disagree about what goes on over there as some folks over there are wayyyy overly enthusiastic when it comes to UOA and needs to expand their social circles

 

[yamahaSHO]

Just read the data posted and form your own opinions. That's all you need to do. What they argue about is for them to do.

 

[Tifosi]

Just read the data posted and form your own opinions. That's all you need to do. What they argue about is for them to do.

"Data" is a term that used loosely on that forum, that's one of the main problem. Just my opinion.

 

[yamahaSHO]

I'm not defining what the forum considers data. I look at the numbers in the tests. I don't care to argue about your distaste for that forum... It's every forum, but here's some "data".

 

[Tifosi]

I'm not defining what the forum considers data. I look at the numbers in the tests. I don't care to argue about your distaste for that forum... It's every forum, but here's some "data".

Been there, done that. First time using Blackstone for UOA was 20 years ago, and I don’t bother with that anymore. We have a saying in medicine, ”You don’t treat lab reports or images, you treat the patients.”. Again, just my opinion.

 

[yamahaSHO]

Don't get me started on *** doctors. They're the mechanics of people and I don't know many good 'mechanics'. I got to live that this year (still am, actually)... The ICU was a good time, and the doctors put me there. That was them treating the patient.

That's good that you don't bother with it anymore, but doesn't mean anything to me here. I watch trends as well as oil condition for usage and how long I want to use it.

 

[Tifosi]

Don't get me started on *** doctors. They're the mechanics of people and I don't know many good 'mechanics'. I got to live that this year (still am, actually)... The ICU was a good time, and the doctors put me there. That was them treating the patient.

That's good that you don't bother with it anymore, but doesn't mean anything to me here. I watch trends as well as oil condition for usage and how long I want to use it.

There you go, it’s nothing personal but the feeling is mutual. And like I said before, you do what you like but I am just going to agree to disagree. Have a nice weekend and happy motoring.

 

[yamahaSHO]

Well, I'll let you know when I can treat a car without data.

 

[Tifosi]

Well, I'll let you know when I can treat a car without data.

Not sure how that's beneficial for me but if you find that placebo effect to be stabilizing for you, then why not. After all, it's just a small altruistic act on my part.

Back on topic for the OP, to further explain what I posted earlier, there is no need to get too obsessed over which oil to use. As long as it is "fully synthetic", of the correct specification required by the manufacture and covers, but not deviates too much from the recommended weight, you will be fine regardless if it is Subaru/Idemitsu, Pennzoil Pure Platinum, Castrol Edge, Mobil 1, Motul or whatever your preferred brand is. OA is a tool, not a Be-all and End-all. You will go insane if you focus on OA too much. Again, just my opinion.

 

[yamahaSHO]

It was a play on "treating the patient" and not particularly meant to be beneficial to you. Data is valuable and if you choose to ignore it, I would not be one of your patients. Anything done on a car, to a high degree is solely based on data. No placebo in numbers here.


"Full Synthetic" isn't a synthetic base stock, which is worth noting. You're correct, oil sampling isn't the be-all, but that's how aviation keeps planes in the sky, including those expensive, single engine fighters in hostile territory... I believe we always took sampling seriously.

 

[Tifosi]

It was a play on "treating the patient" and not particularly meant to be beneficial to you. Data is valuable and if you choose to ignore it, I would not be one of your patients. Anything done on a car, to a high degree is solely based on data. No placebo in numbers here.


"Full Synthetic" isn't a synthetic base stock, which is worth noting. You're correct, oil sampling isn't the be-all, but that's how aviation keeps planes in the sky, including those expensive, single engine fighters in hostile territory... I believe we always took sampling seriously.

How interesting that we just came a full circle from my initial post on this thread. And not unlike BITOG, this is obviously getting out of hand really fast. You are now making assumptions and attacking my work and commenting on my professionalism. Don't you think that's crossing the line here? Is this what a "Super Moderator" should do? Either way, thank you for proving my point on the topic of oil.

There is no need to be condescending, this is not an appropriate behavior, especially not from a "Super Moderator". The Castrol-Mobil Clarification request is well known among the car enthusiasts, that's why I put quotes around the words, full synthetic.

Finally, for whatever reason, you are making this very personal. And for whatever reason, you are unable to understand the phrase "Agree to disagree" which I have said at least twice now. I have made my stand on this subject and if you like to waste your weekend away by posting snarky comments here, enjoy your weekend.

 

[yamahaSHO]

How interesting that we just came a full circle from my initial post on this thread. And not unlike BITOG, this is obviously getting out of hand really fast. You are now making assumptions and attacking my work and commenting on my professionalism. Don't you think that's crossing the line here? Is this what a "Super Moderator" should do? Either way, thank you for proving my point on the topic of oil.

No assumptions... I literally quoted your post. I used the context of your very post, so no, it is not out of line. I actually did not prove your point. I pointed out how aviation uses oil sampling to keep people from falling out of the sky, and in hostile environments. I have a bit of experience here and those samples are taken seriously. They'll use it to find a particular bearing that may be failing and pull an engine, before catastrophic failure happens. This isn't an opinion, it's not suggestion, it's what happens.

There is no need to be condescending, this is not an appropriate behavior, especially not from a "Super Moderator". The Castrol-Mobil Clarification request is well known among the car enthusiasts, that's why I put quotes around the words, full synthetic.

Finally, for whatever reason, you are making this very personal. And for whatever reason, you are unable to understand the phrase "Agree to disagree" which I have said at least twice now. I have made my stand on this subject and if you like to waste your weekend away by posting snarky comments here, enjoy your weekend.

This isn't me making it personal; I am a straight-forward person. You're more than welcome to disagree with facts, but it simply does not change them. If you are offended, that's more of an internal problem with you. And yes, if my doctor spoke to me about "treating the patient" and not using valuable data, they would not be my doctor. Since you are a doctor, that would apply to you as well. Just because you do not like it, it doesn't mean I am crossing the line... Because I am not. I was literally sought out to be a mod years ago because of being a straight shooter. If you think this is snarky and out of line... My military background is hilariously amused, as it's pretty weak.

 

[Tifosi]

No assumptions... I literally quoted your post. I used the context of your very post, so no, it is not out of line. I actually did not prove your point. I pointed out how aviation uses oil sampling to keep people from falling out of the sky, and in hostile environments. I have a bit of experience here and those samples are taken seriously. They'll use it to find a particular bearing that may be failing and pull an engine, before catastrophic failure happens. This isn't an opinion, it's not suggestion, it's what happens.

This isn't me making it personal; I am a straight-forward person. You're more than welcome to disagree with facts, but it simply does not change them. If you are offended, that's more of an internal problem with you. And yes, if my doctor spoke to me about "treating the patient" and not using valuable data, they would not be my doctor. Since you are a doctor, that would apply to you as well. Just because you do not like it, it doesn't mean I am crossing the line... Because I am not. I was literally sought out to be a mod years ago because of being a straight shooter. If you think this is snarky and out of line... My military background is hilariously amused, as it's pretty weak.

That's all very interesting. Please, tell us more.

 

[yamahaSHO]

You will have to be more specific.


The irony here is worth a chuckle.

 

[Tifosi]

You will have to be more specific.


The irony here is worth a chuckle.

There seems to be a lot of anger in you, tell us why you are feeling this way.