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I just removed my tmic, intake, MAF, & pitch stop mount from the top.
On the bottom I did 1 motor mount at a time. I never touched the transmission side for anything.

And I also removed the radiator support brackets.
 
Great writeup! Just installed the group n mounts today. Seemed to go really smoothly for me. Did not have to remove the pitch stop or any bracing underneath either.
 
Awesome DIY thread.... will be doing this over the weekend and needed to find the torque specs for the Pitchstop, Motor, and Trans mounts!

Thank you for taking the time to do this.....
 
Any other tips on how or where to pry the engine backward into place?

Like a couple others, mine went forward the exact width of the stud. It's sitting right on the edge.

I was having a hard time because of the polished concrete floors too since I couldn't properly anchor myself without sliding. We ran out of solutions, and gave up for the night. Never should have attempted this on a week night, lol.

I'm just afraid to pry against something and break it. Other than plastic around the radiator or the rad itself, is there anything else that shouldn't be pry'd on??

Would there be a way to push back from up top? Seems to be all pulleys, belts or plastic on the front of the motor.

How did loosening the trans member help bring it back?

Anything else I might be able to loosen?

I was thinking of forcing one mount at a time back into place, but im afraid the breaker bar will become wedged?

Kind of at a loss here, any insight would be greatly appreciated.


btw great writeup, pitch stop went perfect. had a hard time accessing the rear bolt on the driver side engine mount, but found a different way, better for big hands, lol. Mechanix gloves ftw, first time using them. Unbelievable how nice it is to be able to squeeze your hand into anything without pain!


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Re: Re: GR: How to install motor mounts

Any other tips on how or where to pry the engine backward into place?

Like a couple others, mine went forward the exact width of the stud. It's sitting right on the edge.

I was having a hard time because of the polished concrete floors too since I couldn't properly anchor myself without sliding. We ran out of solutions, and gave up for the night. Never should have attempted this on a week night, lol.

I'm just afraid to pry against something and break it. Other than plastic around the radiator or the rad itself, is there anything else that shouldn't be pry'd on??

Would there be a way to push back from up top? Seems to be all pulleys, belts or plastic on the front of the motor.

How did loosening the trans member help bring it back?

Anything else I might be able to loosen?

I was thinking of forcing one mount at a time back into place, but im afraid the breaker bar will become wedged?

Kind of at a loss here, any insight would be greatly appreciated.


btw great writeup, pitch stop went perfect. had a hard time accessing the rear bolt on the driver side engine mount, but found a different way, better for big hands, lol. Mechanix gloves ftw, first time using them. Unbelievable how nice it is to be able to squeeze your hand into anything without pain!


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If I remember correctly, when mine shifted I used pry bar against the subframe and transmission/motor. Just look for a solid spot and then lock your feet somewhere on the car to keep you from moving, and giv'er!

Hopefully you didn't take both mounts out at the same time. Just loosen one as much as possible and remove the other. That way it stays aligned relatively well.

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Great how-to. I'll be installing the torque solution mounts soon. I loved my Cusco mounts on the GD. I hope the torque solutions are similar.
 
Re: Re: GR: How to install motor mounts

Isn't that what 9 is for? We didn't think it would lift from the oil pan if we left one side in.
I found if I loosened one as far as the threads would go, there was just enough clearance to swap the opposite mount once lifted.

Maybe it'll be easier to get back in pos with a second pair of hands



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Noximus, have you tried bolting up the pitchstop fully and letting it pull the engine back as it lowers?

You could also try some light pressure against the axle where it goes into the transmission. You should be able to push on it with the subframe as leverage. Alternatively, if you have a good sized buddy, you can always grab the engine by the IM and give it a good shove to man handle it back (with the studs just off the subframe).

Let me know if I can help otherwise.
 
Definitely already had a second set of hands on this one. This is first big issues we've encountered on our STIs so far. When we do his mounts, we'll go for the one stud in method to see how that goes.

I just removed the kartboy pitch stop. Then loosened the trans mount, and there was definitely some pressure on the trans mount. I think we have a good shot this time around. Bigger jack too to make it simpler.

I'll let you know how we make out.


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I'm kinda anxious to do mines now.
Hopefully our second attempt goes well! :p

First gear is really fun now. I can down shift right into it without bogging down or ride in heavy traffic without playing the clutch game. The extra rumble on idle makes you feel even more badass, hah

Now I regret not getting the trans mount! :O

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FWIW, on my 13 sti, I took out the bolt on the downpipe back near the O2 sensor, unbolted by pitch stop on the firewall side and of course my intake. These were the main items I had to undo. Unbolting the pitch stop allowed my engine to slide right back into place aligning the stud and hole just fine. I did do one side at a time.
 
Thank you for the writeup Sabrewings. It was very helpful in preparing and finishing my own install of the Group N engine mounts.

I have some observations and notes for some who are planning on doing this themselves.

I unclipped the airbox and took out the intake duct, disconnected the pitch stop, took off the intercooler, and took off the radiator stays. I did not remove the subframe brace as it wasn't in the way of anything down there. My sway bar stayed in place, too, because my SuperPro sway bar has the OEM bends in it. Nothing on the transmission side was removed either.

I did one side at a time, and while doing the driver's side the Group N mount was a width of the bolt off center so I couldn't get it back in the slot to tighten it up. Prying wasn't working for me and since I was working alone I decided to jack the motor back up and to re-try it by just bolting up the rear while lining up the center bolt that goes through the slot on the front crossmember.

Basically I kept the rear bolt cinched up but a little loose and not tightened all the way, and slowly lowered the motor until the center bolt gets barely through the slot. At this point, don't lower the motor all the way since you still need space to tighten up the rear bolt first. (I must say, the ratcheting flex head wrench makes this part easy, though I had to interlock another wrench to it as mentioned by others to get enough leverage to tighten it up nicely). After tightening up the rear bolt, double-check to make sure the center bolt is still lined up in the slot and then lower the motor back down slowly. Tighten up the front bolt and then barely screw on the nut to the center bolt so you can do the same for the other side mount. After both mounts are in, torque the center nuts to spec. I felt like this was an effective strategy to prevent having to spend a lot of time prying and cursing and possibly crying.

Some things to note:
-- I couldn't get the two nuts off the original bracket mounts (I don't have any stable bench vise in my garage nor could I get to one since my car was on jack stands). If you don't have a vise then I suggest buying 4 of the 14mm nuts that connect the bracket to the mount before doing your work. Luckily, I had exactly 4 of these from a suspension install that was leftover and used those instead.
-- I had to remove my EL header to remove the RH side mount (passenger side) because of the way the tubes are arranged. What should've been a straight 2 hour install became doubled. Keep this in mind if you're undertaking this install. I noticed Sabrewings had the stock header at the time of his writeup so I'm assuming there was no issue there.
-- If you don't have a ratcheting flex head wrench, buy a set. It will make you smile when you are taking the feared rear engine mount bolt to school.
-- I installed a SuperPro pitch stop while doing the Group N engine mounts since it was accessible with the intercooler off anyways. Now would be a good time to do it if you plan on doing so. Also, I noticed that my stock pitch stop rubber was already a little torn on the small bushing end.

All in all the install was quite fun but I don't think I would willingly do it again. The Group N mounts are pretty badass though. Initial thought is I like them a lot. :) Hope my notes help out in addition to all the other tips and comments here in the thread.
 
Ok it's in!!!!!!111

It really was the trans mount holding all the pressure. Loosening those two bolts put the engine back in its place.

When we lowered the engine, it fit like a glove. We didn't even have to pry anything!

Thanks again for the write up!!
Trying to clarify this one, you loosened the two bolts on the transmission mount? If the trans mount is loosened, wouldn't it be the jack that's holding up the engine? (via the oil pan?)

Thanks in advance.
 
Trying to clarify this one, you loosened the two bolts on the transmission mount? If the trans mount is loosened, wouldn't it be the jack that's holding up the engine? (via the oil pan?)

Thanks in advance.
Yep. I used a 2x4 and a 3.5t jack to keep it up. The oil pan is quite sturdy.

I believe releasing both engine mounts at the same time and simply loosening the trans mount is the easiest and quickest method. I don't think we reached the 2hr mark the second time we did it on MaskedMarvel's car. We'll be doing the swap again on a third car shortly. I'm confident we can finish it in under an hour now.
 
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