www.smcenterprises.com about the best bolt on kit you can get!!!

They sell bolt on kits, but if you wanna run a Spec-C 12Liter tank they can also customize you a setup with that as well....that is what I'm running.

 

as far as purchasing the kit, there are many vendors on here www.gruppe-s.com and www.staticxmotorsports.com as well as others that sell that particular SMC kit.

 

Thanks for input...:tup:

 

They sell bolt on kits, but if you wanna run a Spec-C 12Liter tank they can also customize you a setup with that as well....that is what I'm running.

Sorry to hi-jack the thread STI5150, but how long does this 12 liter tank typically last you? I realize that it depends on how you drive the car, but whats a ballpark figure? Also, I know XXtuning has some good meth injection kits for around $400. There site is xxtuning.com if your interested.

 

12Liters is a little less than 4 gallons.....the 1 gallon units usually last everyone 2-3 full gastank fillups.....It not only depends on how you drive the car but how large of a nozzle you are using, I am using the LARGEST it flows 10 gallons per hour at WOT. I'd say using the normal nozzle and driving "spirited" that the 12 liter tank will probably last you at least 2 months before it needs a fillup.....but the way some people on here take care of their cars it could last up to 4 months.....however if you don't drive it hard enought to empty at least a gallon a month then you'd probably be wasting your money on a 12 Liter tank since it adds $200 to the cost of the Methanol Kit

 

I was wondering if there was a IWSTI sponsor or vendor that sells a complete bolt on meth kit for the sti. I coudn't find info using "search."
What kit do you guys recommend. I rather buy from a sponsor here than google every vendor that sells sti parts.
Any thoughts and info is appreciated.
:tup:

If you cant find a custom kit that you like, I highly recommend AlkyControl...aka "Razor's Alky."
http://www.alkycontrol.com
Ive been running that kit on my Syclone for a while, and its great. Many of the GM and Buick guys have switched from the SMC kits to alkycontrol. Give Julio a call and talk to him about custom setups. He is extremely knowledgable about the kits...he actually makes all of them himself. I dont know if he has an STI kit yet, but some DSM guys are running it now. Im going to go with that kit when I starting modding my STI.

 

Excellent info guys thanks for the input. This will help others that are interested aswell.


5150

 

Can you have a map for Alcohol Injection and run it only when you go to the track?

 

After researching the meth kits, i was looking to see if the meth kit can turned on and off or is the system constantly on. In other words can it be off (driving around town) and later turned on ex. drag strip.


:tup:

 

Can you have a map for Alcohol Injection and run it only when you go to the track?

I have a separate program for alky and no alky, but I find myself leaving the alky on all the time (because 26 psi on pump gas is insanely addictive LOL)

After researching the meth kits, i was looking to see if the meth kit can turned on and off or is the system constantly on. In other words can it be off (driving around town) and later turned on ex. owning Srt4 from a stop light.lol

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First, you dont need any mods to beat an srt4 from a light.
The good kits have their own MAP sensors that activate the alky at a selectable manifold pressure. The better kits also have adjustable slopes on the alky injection map (which is built into the alky controller) to increase or decrease the rate at which the alky volume increases with MAP.

 

But can you leave it off?

 

I have a separate program for alky and no alky, but I find myself leaving the alky on all the time (because 26 psi on pump gas is insanely addictive LOL)

First, you dont need any mods to beat an srt4 from a light.
The good kits have their own MAP sensors that activate the alky at a selectable manifold pressure. The better kits also have adjustable slopes on the alky injection map (which is built into the alky controller) to increase or decrease the rate at which the alky volume increases with MAP.

26psi on what turbo?

 

First, you dont need any mods to beat an srt4 from a light.

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Oops, I was thinking drag strip not stop light. WTH was I thinking.

 

But can you leave it off?

Yeah, what he said?????????

 

One thing i have always wondered with running the trunk bottles is whether there are any issues with running such a long line from the trunk to the TB nozzle.

Seems with bottle in the engine bay you are pressurizing only a couple feet of tubing, which changes to several feet from the trunk. Would there be any air pocket issues with so much more piping?

Cheers,
Sameer

 

One thing i have always wondered with running the trunk bottles is whether there are any issues with running such a long line from the trunk to the TB nozzle.

Seems with bottle in the engine bay you are pressurizing only a couple feet of tubing, which changes to several feet from the trunk. Would there be any air pocket issues with so much more piping?

Cheers,
Sameer

I've been running mine from the trunk for almost a year now without any issues. Once I initially primed the lines everything was good. Every 2 or 3 months I'll check by pulling off the line at the TB and set the UTEC to make the pump run constantly, and its always spit out the meth without any air bubbles or any other hesitations.

 

I would check out Snow Performance if I were you...

 

The Aquamist setups are the most safety-concious systems out there. Spendy, but nothing like the price of a WI system fault

aquamist.co.uk

 

But can you leave it off?

I can only speak about the SMC kit, because that's what we're dealing with down here in the South. Basically, the SMC taps into your vaccum line and reads the PSI out of the turbo. Once you break 10psi, the controller tells the kit to spray until you're out of boost. Most days, driving the city you rarely break 10psi and thus, you rarely spray the meth. Once you tune for it, thats really that. At least with ecutek. I'm sure with cobb you can tune a meth and non-meth map but what fun is that? 10psi is plenty for daily street driving. Its there when you want it, otherwise its off.

 

My question is... Do you need have it tuned when you install it, or can you install it and go, then later on tune it? That's what's holding me up from pulling the trigger. I won't have access to protuning for quite a while. I would be interested to know if anyone has just installed the kit and driven for some time on it before a tune. (especially on a cobb stage 2 setup)

 

You can tune it later.
If you have a progressive setup, you can always turn the on time at a higher boost level and set the max point to something higher then stock boost.

I have a dual injector setup, but both injectors are very, very small, only to keep heat soak at bay.

You don't have to run a large injector right off the bat. You could run a small injector just to lower intake temps, and when you get a tune, you can upgrade to a larger injector. The injectors are cheap, like 5 bucks each.

 

You can tune it later.
If you have a progressive setup, you can always turn the on time at a higher boost level and set the max point to something higher then stock boost.

I have a dual injector setup, but both injectors are very, very small, only to keep heat soak at bay.

You don't have to run a large injector right off the bat. You could run a small injector just to lower intake temps, and when you get a tune, you can upgrade to a larger injector. The injectors are cheap, like 5 bucks each.

Which setup are you using?

I thought that the SMC alky kit sprayed alcohol in two steps depending on psi?

I understand that you can only run a max of 50/50 alcohol/water with the Aquamist.

Mike

 

SMC pushes more psi when u reach a certain preset (that u do preset) PSI.

if u put MAX at 15 PSI of boost and MIN say 10 PSI, then it will gradually raise its PUMP to 0 psi and max out 100psi of injection within that 5 PSI.

well that's what i believe, I have SMC but I havn't installed it yet.

-Mike

 

Which of these kits provides a better failsafe?... I'm concerned about possible failures and or issues.

 

i don't know about other companies, but smc will build a fail safe system soon. I know for sure aquamist (very HIGH END, the lambo of Water Injection) has a "blocked nozzle" detector and a very good fail safe system.