STIs are: Not. For. Drag. Racing.

They corner and accelerate out of said corners as good or better than 90% of cars on the road. Not to sound like a ****, but if you're concerned with 1/4 mile times, you could've gotten something cheaper and faster than an STI.

 

Whats with people and their obsession with speed? Isn't corning so much more thrilling?

 

TurboLag's 3 easy step method for making the GR faster


1) Buy a 1.6L auto eco box

2) drive said car for a month

3) get back in STI


Instant speed rush!

no mods necessary!

 

LOL! @ people with drag racing mentality. Once the corners are around, its a whole different story.

Watch this video:

 

While I agree the STI was not built with the intent of drag racing, I still believe it is not excuse for the car to get slower or maintain the same power. The engine setup hasnt really changed since the STI came to the US in 2004. Every other car maker has advanced and built faster cars which are now passing the STI.

IMO, Subaru needs to step up their game and build a car that puts the fear back in the other car companies. 300-305hp is not much these days.

Im not hating on the GR. It is still a very capable platform. But if you want to run with some of the better cars these days, you need to have your mod budget in order.

 

The Ops point is valid even if the car wasn't specifically designed for drag racing.Nobody wants their new $35K-$40K Subaru to be slower than the 8 year old model whether its in a straight line or through corners. Its like saying If you care so much about cornering, you should get an old Miata and put coils on it and you will beat most cars in corners but you will do 0-60 in 15 seconds. Would you be satisfied?

Fact is these STI cars no longer stand out as handling all that well compared to other new vehicles either. Mustangs, M3s, 370Z(350Z) were cars that used to perform worse back in 04. They have all stepped up their games while Subaru stagnates. This did not stop me from getting a new 11 STi because a modded STI is very entertaining. If I were staying stock, I would not buy an STi

 

other than the new mustang what other cars supposedly stepped up and also fall into the 32k or less range?

When OP says why is the GR slower, slower than what, a GD? Is it really, seems they run right around the same times on a 1320

 

I think the 370Z is a good example. I had an 03 350z and at the time it was very competitive in the market and pretty quick. It could turn well and would do high 13s and trap 100 mph. Nissan put the new engine in and made the 370Z much quicker. I think they trap like 106 stock and pull close to a G. Subaru didn't do that with the STi.

My currently Stock 2011 STI is no faster than my 2003 350Z whether you're talking straight line or twisties. That is just Sad. Fortunately once I mod and get tuned the sadness turns to happiness in the form of toque way beyond and Z car that isnt FI

 

Dchee do you see how high that STI is revving ? sigh

 

It's somewhat comparable. The 370z does quarter in the low 13's and if I remember correctly the G does that in the high 13's.

Edit: Turbolag, This is the JDM STI, the engine different and the redline is set at 8k.

 

O.P.-Worthless information. Wrong car, wrong forum. Stop reading magazines and learn to drive your car how it was designed to be driven. Problem solved.

Ever go to a meet and see all the hellaflush cars with BBKs that still have the molding nubs on the side walls...

 

Nice. I am glad you said that.

 

Pretty sure the 1/4 times are very close. What are you basing the 1 second slower from?

BTW about the taller gears, for the 1/4 it's better since you don't have to shift into 5th.

 

STi isn't a good straight line racer, especially from a roll. IMO it's mainly the gearing and lack of top end. The fancy awd system doesn't help either.

 

Never mind.

 

The GR isn't slower..

Also, I don't care about power, I just wish the car would lose some weight. IMO the STi shouldn't be in the same class as a mustang. It should go back to its roots as a homologation special and come stripped out like a race car should be... i guess you would have to keep all the safety equipment though, which Im sure has added enough weight over the years.

 

It hasn't really added very much weight; 120 pounds or so? But that's a whole different argument anyways. It has gone up over the years.

But I do agree that lighter is better. It would be nice to see a 500 pound lighter STI, even if it were smaller in every dimension. What would be the right move would be to discontinue the 4-5 door STI altogether, still sell a WRX based on the 4-5 door Impreza, and create a 2 door STI tuned Toyobaru.

 

It's not a second slower. It's a low 13 second car in the right hands, just like a GD is a low 13 second car in the right hands.

 

Usually I would say "TROLL!" but you've been around here a bit. Slower than what? Squat makes a car faster? Wouldn't the time be better spent taking off rather than squatting?

Oh, and congrats on the new ride!

 

I know its a only motortrend, but they put the 11 STI at 13.4 in the 1/4. What did the earlier STI's run?

 

Put the magazine down...

 

Historically car mags post SLOW times for pretty much every car they test. So? What did the earlier STI's run?

 

Like dyno numbers you can only compare if they're done under the same conditions i.e. basically back to back and even then there's driver error etc.

But yeah you can create a thread 100 pages long going around in circles about it...

 

Definitely. I was just wondering how the 11 compares to the older years is all. I figure they are close.

 

Sorry guys.. My stock GD did 12.95 w a 1.6 60'.
I can and have posted the slip.
Baselined, I had 280+ pound feet of torque at the wheels stock, 50 deg 50% humidity.
No correction.
Went stage 2, pro tune, weight reduction and CF drive shaft.
12.59, and my 0-60s were often 4.2ish or less. According to my gtimer that was accurate at rte 66 to within .1sec

I posted some of the fastest times in my autox events, and I tracked the car at autobahn.

My stock GR was outgunned in a 4th gear run by a modded ser spec v.
My GD stock could pull on a c5 vette in 4th gear until 5k rpm.
My modded GD could keep even with the new short geared 2012 5.0. From a roll.
All I'm saying is wtf happened to this car?
So a buddy who's a certified mechanic mentions all these changes to me and I needed to post for some validation.
My personal feeling is when cruise control in I mode gets 18.6 mpg on a flat 5 mile road w no traffic, and I get 26.7 w my right foot, I question the skill of the powertraon programming team.
On another note, my GD was built in Hiroshima, where my GR shows Indiana.
Hmm.

I am now a disappointed owner and no longer love my Subaru.
I'm probably trading this car after the winter.
I'm not modding it, and I think I'm done posting.

I'll get a 370z or a C6 next.

 

On another note, my GD was built in Hiroshima, where my GR shows Indiana.

Imprezas are only built at Ota Gunma in Japan currently. Care to post a picture of your window sticker that says an STI was built in Indiana?

Also, my stage 2 GR is just as fast as my buddy's decently modded EJ257 and 6-spd swapped 04 WRX. I'm putting down about 10 more WHP as well, though the GR is a bit heavier.

The GR isn't slower (well, maybe stock).

 

Didn't know Indiana made imprezas. They have a very good plant there and use good quality materials. The legacys from Indiana had less problems then the ones in Japan.

Also baseline 280 torque? Cmon... I never heard of such a base without major correction factors. Even RWD/FWD cars have a much higher drivetrain lose then that and the STi is known for having some pretty major drivetrain lose.

MPG rating on 5 miles? You need at least a couple tanks to get a good reading...

Were any of these "readings" done at a drag strip or all through some gadget like what you find on smart phones? You mention some GTimer?

Something definitely seems wrong with what you're saying.

 

why is that sti reving to 8k? At first i thought that was the civic si haha. Are all jdm sti rev till 8k?

 

Yes that is the JDM version.

Tsukuba Circuit is in Japan

 

Well it seems unsatisfied people buy their STIs for the wrong reasons- flooring it in a straight line and street racing. Happy owners use them as intended- going fast around corners.

It's not the car- it's the misguided owner that's the problem...

 

+1 for that! And don't forget the fun of AWD when it comes to winter

 

lol @ impreza made in indiana.

Enjoy your next car. Previous GD owner here that's completely satisfied with the improvments to his GR sedan.

I went 13.3 @ 103 stock with 1.69 60'

I'm almost positive my GR stock could do virtually the same. If not, it sure feels like it could. And if it couldn't, I don't give a damn, because I don't street race or run the 1320 anymore. If I did and I bought an STI, I should be kicking myself in the pants because I completely screwed the pooch.

 

Man I love the Internet.

 

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