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All Season Tires Recommendation

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#1 ·
Hello everyone,
I just got a new STI Limited that comes with these awesome tires. Unfortunately, I live in Colorado and I'm afraid these tires are not good for the winter here. The tires that I have are Yokohama Advan Sport 245/35/R19.

What performance all season tires will you recommend? I'm trying to avoid swapping tires between seasons.

Thanks!
 
#4 ·
For a while the top 2 options were continental’s dws06 and Michelin’s a/s3+, where continental was the way to go if you favored better snow performance, and Michelin was the better road tire. With the new a/s4’s, not sure how much feedback there is yet. Looks to be more siping on them so they’re going after better snow traction, but who knows if they give much up compared to the 3s for road. They come on the new corvette fwiw though. Never used the Michelin’s, but the dws have been great on past cars.
 
#5 ·
Yes those tires definitly arent winter tires but im sure they're a good summer tire. I dont have any experience with all season tires on these cars. Ive always ran a set of summers and then a set of winters. I dont think I will ever go back to all seasons on any car.

Lateley ive been seeing a couple of cars here and there with Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4. Not sure if they are any good compared to the popular Conti DWS tires. Generally Michelin makes a quality product when it comes to tires. I run Super Sports for summer and Alpin 4's for winter. I dont have any compaints about either besides the price lol.
 
#6 ·
I am currently running Michelin Pilot Sport AS 4. Haven't driven in rain or snow yet though since I live in Socal lol. I have a track wheel set-up so my all season wheels are for daily driving without switching to full winter tires for rain/snow. I am using all seasons mainly for rain. Winter tires have too much tread and too noisy since there isn't any snow here.

Anyways, they handle great. I've taken a few good 180 long corners and a handful of swirly ramps and my STI feels like its riding on train tracks.
 
#7 · (Edited)
Not only are summers not good enough, but I have to ask whether all seasons are! Long ago I ran all seasons all year and my preferred tire for performance was POTENZA RE980AS+ on several car incl the 05 STI. They don't ride all that well, but they make up for it in handling and they are available in the19. I live in SJ not Colorado. I can't imagine running all seasons in many places in CO during the winter. Aren't there roads an passes that require winters and or chains at times during storms? Anyway both STIs have dedicated summer/winter setups and they aren't going back.

If you are going to swap, then winters are in order and I can say Michelin Alpin PA4s are quite good, but ridiculously expensive. Personally I recommend to buy a set of 18" wheels and put winters on them. The 19" wheels are easily bent and 18" tires are so much less expensive it won't cost much more initially, and you'll end up saving money in the long run, and have a quicker car to boot.
 
#9 ·
If you are going to swap, then winters are in order and I can say Michelin Alpin PA4s are quite good, but ridiculously expensive. Personally I recommend to buy a set of 18" wheels and put winters on them. The 19" wheels are easily bent and 18" tires are so much less expensive it won't cost much more initially, and you'll end up saving money in the long run, and have a quicker car to boot.
Ridiculosly expensive indeed. I droped just over 1K on those the other year. Sure my Aplin 3's lasted me 7/8 seasons and thats why i went for Alpin 4's. I hope to get the same life span out of the Aplin 4's. I better because ill be real dissapointed if I dont. Reguardless if I get what i paid out of them or not, i dont think i will go for a serious performance winter tire again on a daily. Maybe next time around i go for something in the mid range that Michelin has to offer when it comes to snow tires. Maybe X-ICE or something like that.
 
#13 · (Edited)
I've been on Michelin AS 3+ for 3 years and they are amazing tires in dry, rain, cold, and light snow. Meh in snow but I've had cars in the lake effect world....you get used to how to not overdrive a car. That being said, the AS4 and dws06 plus are new. The former seems to have a much better tread pattern for snow, in particular directional and stopping issues, and the latter has a better compound.

In doing recent "research" I came across a "tyre reviews" channel on Youtube who tested at the Michelin testing grounds the AS4 lapped 6 seconds faster and stopped way better than the other 6 UHP a/s tires....the dws 06 (not plus) was in that mix. I don't think the new "plus" conti will get 6 seconds...


Since I am a suspension and handling guy, I am going with the Michelin AS4's soon. If I lived in say a place with more snow I might go conti but probably would just get a second set of wheels and go alpin's.

I have had Continentals in the past and Michelins.

Continentals for me have lasted a little longer scaled for tire rating on the same cars... I rotate q5k miles and have alignments that are kind to tires on purpose.

Both brands have good warranties and seem well made. The Michelins for the last 3 sets of tires on different cars have had one special feature, when road force balancing them, they have not needed any weights at all. I find that remarkable q/c. For that reason, I am biased from the get go to go Michelin.

Here is a link to that YouTube video on 2021 UHP tires.


(I have nothing to do with this person, just a decent review)

The guy forgot the BFG and did not have the newest Conti, but the results for the Michelin are remarkable...that is where I am going.

I run 18's on my 2019 STI and prefer the extra sidewall and increased tire selection...



Good luck to the OP. My vote is the Michelin AS4 and that is how I plan to spend my hard earned dollars in about 7 weeks.


Note, the michelin are 3 pounds heavier than the conti...but that is probably all sidewall....the loss of directional input/feel on the dws, based on dws06 v as3+ that I have actually felt on the same car, was noticeable to me and I far prefered the feel of the michelins. For a person who has done a few laps around a track, it is a big deal. But I wish the Michelins would go on a slight diet too. The Michelins are wider and "might" protect the rim a tiny bit better (not sure on this).
 
#15 ·
Hello everyone,
I just got a new STI Limited that comes with these awesome tires. Unfortunately, I live in Colorado and I'm afraid these tires are not good for the winter here. The tires that I have are Yokohama Advan Sport 245/35/R19.

What performance all season tires will you recommend? I'm trying to avoid swapping tires between seasons.

Thanks!
Continental Extreme Contact DWS06 Plus
19’ $900- 18’ $700-$800
These have so much grip
 
#17 ·
I'm in central NJ and like jay11sti said, we get a few moderate snows but last year we got killed with a couple of storms. I have an alternate set of wheels and tires for winter using Blizzak WS90's in 245/40-18 on a 2020 STI Limited. They are okay on dry ground. I notice them mostly if I have make a very fast stop.
 
#18 · (Edited)
I will 3rd or maybe 4th the Continental DWS 06 for winter tires (I have a '17 STI)....full disclosure I also have a 4x4 truck that I drive
when the snow gets deep.

I live on the northern Colorado front range and I have had zero problems getting around when the snow/ice was below the lip spoiler
(note that I am talking getting around at speed and not puttering around). I have out accelerated, out turned and out braked just about
anything else I have driven with the exception of other true AWD vehicles (but without limited slip diff's) with full snows on.

The problem with full winter tires on the Front Range is that we get entire weeks in the middle of winter that the high can be 70deg F....full winter
tires just shred at those temps.

So I run the stock tires in the summer and the Conti's when the weather gets cold.

Probably can't go wrong with the Michelin's either....just don't get anything with steel studs.....absolutely unnecessary on the Colorado front range and
actually more dangerous (because we don't get ice of the correct consistency) most of the time.