[Cannedtuna]

Kevin they forgot one category in their matrix: hatchback offered? Subaru-No. Ford, VW, Mazda-Yes

 

[bboytaktix]

well Ford, Mazda and I believe VW as well only offer those cars in hatch, and many out there (including myself) simply do not like the look of the hatch so would opt NOT to buy those cars. It's a two-way street.

 

[GotSTI?]

I think they went to electronic steering, because there were problems with the steering rack in the STI. I had the whole steering rack replaced this year and it cost me $1600. If you track your car with wider tires (I have 275's) then I guess the likelihood of this happening is increased. This was not an expense I want to have again. So, I am glad to hear this more than most. Of course, I am basing this on my limited knowledge of the known problem with the steering rack.

We all have to believe the STI has many of the same improvements. I have to believe they will put the twin scroll on the STI. So, if that's true won't the twin scroll on the 2.5L has to make a considerable difference in horsepower? If they can get 268 HP out of the 2.0L whereas they got 265 out of the 2.5L in the previous generation WRX then… what does that mean for the twin scroll on the 2.5L STI engine? Maybe… (calling on engineers) that means we truly are getting above the 305 HP mark in the STI?

Previous Generation:
2.5L WRX = 265 hp
2.5L STI = 305 HP

New Generation
2.0L WRX (with twin scroll) = 268 HP
2.5L STI (with twin scroll?) = ???

We have long heard how the STI has understeer. I haven't driven a stock STI since 2008. I had sways and my coilovers on my cars since then. I have driven a 2012 WRX without them and I felt like I was driving a minivan compared to my STI. So, this is a big win for the STOCK car. The stock car is likely going to put down a lot better lap times and with the steering improvement I believe the car will feel a LOT better. So, I expect very good reviews on the cars from Car& Driver and other magazines because of this. I believe they will make mention of how the new model closed the gap on the handling and steering that is in the EVO.

The gauges are a very nice touch. I zoomed in and the screen appears to include images of the heating and cooling setting and the passenger air bag setting. That seemed kind of lame, but either way it is another good improvement. I'm really hoping oil pressure is included in that gauge.

Overall, I think the stock car looks great. Pretty smart to include a LED headlight upgrade if you want to pay the money. The other options in the limited are nice too. Power seats and keyless ignition are new and I'm sure welcomed by people that have had other cars with that option in them.

I love the hint of it being a track car with the wheels and car jack in the image of page 7.

If the car has less brake fade… the gap between the STI and the WRX as a track car has shortened.

All in all, everything I have read is a win win. This is going to be a great car. I can't wait to see and drive it.

 

[GotSTI?]

Kevin they forgot one category in their matrix: hatchback offered? Subaru-No. Ford, VW, Mazda-Yes

I would anticipate this in the 2016 model. In my opinion, holding off on the hatch is a marketing / sales strategy.

 

[mikedotd]

I think they went to electronic steering, because there were problems with the steering rack in the STI.

This is generally done to reduce parasitic power loss from hydraulic steering pumps, in an effort to raise MPG ratings.

 

[GotSTI?]

This is generally done to reduce parasitic power loss from hydraulic steering pumps, in an effort to raise MPG ratings.

Will it have any impact on the steering rack problems though?

 

[Cannedtuna]

I would anticipate this in the 2016 model. In my opinion, holding off on the hatch is a marketing / sales strategy.

Yea I figure that it could be a tactic; but in the unveiling video Subaru put together a timeline that showcased the history of their sedan segment. Seems to me like it could be their new direction and they just want to make that clear. Luckily for me I can wait a while longer to see what's in store after two years.

 

[DemonicSti]

with the Levorg coming out, i see the wrx or sti sedan only.

 

[blacknblue06STI]

258 Ft lbs @ TWO THOUSAND RPM! LOL...that is going to be a snappy throttle compared to the 2.5 with 243 Ft Lbs at 4000 rpm. With identical gearing as the outgoing GR's the 2015's would have been a LOT faster to 60...and I am guessing that the manufacturer estimate is going to be proven to be on the conservative side once people get used to launching the car. Another thing that sticks out like a sore thumb in those specs is the 10.6 :01 compression.....this 2.0 is probably going to benefit to a much greater degree to exhaust mods than the outgoing 2.5 even did, wich had a much more conservative compression ratio. Win win all over the place with the new WRX!

 

[HeubergerMotors]

You're welcome IWSTI !

 

[normansti]

After I visit the 2015 sti at the Detroit auto show, I will make my decision whether its going to be the wrx or the sti. We will be talking in january clint.

 

[HeubergerMotors]

Sounds good I sent Kevin these files glad to see everyone's response!

 

[Sabrewings]

I think they went to electronic steering, because there were problems with the steering rack in the STI.

They did it because it is still based off the current Impreza which has... ding ding ding! Electric steering. Most new Subarus do, now that I think about it.

On the new Foresters and on non-USDM Subarus that have had electric steering for a few years now, there can be issues with it being jerky. In those instances, dealers can't seem to find the problem after throwing a dozen parts at it.

Will it have any impact on the steering rack problems though?

Out with some old, in with some new. :lol:

 

[06STI360]

Sounds good I sent Kevin these files glad to see everyone's response!

Clint we shall talk when you get an ETA on STI's hitting the ground. I'm just right up the road!

 

[HeubergerMotors]

Clint we shall talk when you get an ETA on STI's hitting the ground. I'm just right up the road!

Why don't you even come give me a hug?!!!

 

[06STI360]

Why don't you even come give me a hug?!!!

When I say right up the road.......... I mean close enough to buy a car from you.

Internet hug! (no ****)

For serious, I've been out of a Subaru for 18 months and I've got the itch bad!

 

[Cannedtuna]

When I say right up the road.......... I mean close enough to buy a car from you.

Internet hug! (no ****)

For serious, I've been out of a Subaru for 18 months and I've got the itch bad!

I thought you were enjoying VAG....more refined, decent power band, and fun to drive.

 

[iLuveKetchup]

It looks smaller than the huge '11+ sedan/boat.

 

[jsquared]

I was excited when I saw "active torque vectoring" and "quicker steering ratio" but then disappointed to see it is just front caliper pulsing and only 14.5:1. The stiffer unibody is always a plus, and I should have expected the electric power steering for MPG purposes (only EPS I've used extensively was the EPS on my S2000 that I owned for a few years; it was really good steering but that might partially be down to the weight distribution and double-wishbone front suspension. I haven't heard good things about the current batch of EPS, even from the BMWs or Porsches).

I like the twin-scroll low-mount turbo for better response and the direct injection, and I'm curious if the rumor about the transaxle is true: that they flipped the positioning of the clutch and diff like Audi and Porsche have done, in order to pull the engine closer to the axle centerline and reduce nose-heaviness. Haven't seen any definitive photos yet, can't wait for someone to really get knee deep under the hood. No mention of whether they changed the front geometry either, I'm guessing the ALKs will still be a popular mod


Oh yes, why the heck is it RED?!?!

 

[GRguy]

Looks good, I see alot of potential, and the twin scroll turbo is always nice.