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Hey all,

Now that is is freaking cold weather (5 degrees F) I am starting to hear sounds from my STi when I start it up, only on startup, and only when it's less than 10-12 degrees....If it's any warmer than that, then the noise doesn't appear.

The sound only happens on the initial spinup of the engine (about a second) and sounds like those noise-makers at parties...you know the ones where it's a tube and there's a little spinning fan inside and it increases in pitch the harder you blow on it?

The sound disappears once the engine is fully running. I've tried turning the ignition to the ON position, letting the needle sweep finish and starting the engine, but that doesn't seem to help.

I'm runing synthetic, so I thought that may have something to do with it...just changed out about 3k miles ago (I have 16k on my car right now)

any ideas? is this normal?

any ideas about this? I'm brining it to the dealer tomorrow to replace my brake pads so I'll probably bring this up as well.
 

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Not really sure man. I have yet to hear that noise. I do not think it has to do with your switch over to synthetic.

Out of curiousity are the brakes pads covered under our warranty? When they do replace them do they use the current brake pads that we have? I was under the impression that wear and tear items are not under warranty.
 

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Brake pads are not covered under warranty.

How come they're replacing them? Wouldn't be because of a certain noise when you stop while going in reverse, would it?
 

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Since they are not under warranty they will probably rip you off on the cost. Why not look into some aftermarket pads?
 

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Couldn't it be the alternator's sound?

Talking about annoying rattles, yesterday, while installing my rear strut bar and removed the rear seat, I found 2 quarters and a nickel beneath it. Man, I wondered what an annoying sound came from the back :lol:
 

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I had a misubishi that would make this exact noise from a fan in the heating system when it was ice cold out... just for a few minutes when I started the car. Where does it sound like the noise is coming from?
 

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I repeat... "Do not throw change into the back of people's STi wishing you could have one!!!" :lol:

As for the noise it could just be the turbo spinning up. Can't really say why it's happening in extreme cold and not 5 degrees higher... weird.
 

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I haven't been able to pinpoint it at this point, since I'm usually in the car starting it, and I don't want to sit there starting and stopping the car to try to recreate the problem...:) I'll see what happens tomorrow morning, since it's projected for a high of 7 degrees. Yeah, I find it weird as well...I just didn't want it to be pistons scraping the engine block...

As far as the brake pads are concerned, that's what my dealer said...I've heard conflicting reports from various people on the board so YMMV. They're replacing them because I have like 1mm-2mm left on the pads at this point...
 

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I just didn't want it to be pistons scraping the engine block...
Rings scrape the cylinder walls all the time... :p

I doubt it's something like that. If you have any kids you might just want to check the intake. It might just be a kazoo stuck in there. :lol:

Also, don't rule out one of the belts. Could really be anything. I'd just get someone to start the car while you're under the hood watching and listening.
 

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TL-racer/STi-driver said:
http://www.subaru.com/owners/care/warranty/middle.jsp

The pads should be covered under warranty until 3yr/36K.
no, no, no, no. read that again.the pads wearing out from use is NOT covered under the warranty. if you somehow BROKE a pad, that would be covered. if one of your calipers mysteriously split in two, THAT would be covered. worn out pads are normal wear and tear, and aren't covered, nor should they be. if the pads were warranty items, why wouldn't the tires, or the oil/air/fuel filters.
 

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Can a hood scoop mesh reduce performance??

soa did replace my pads and rotors for free at 8700 miles. outside of rotors were fine but, the insides were toast. the pads were about 1/4 worn.

no idea on the noise though

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That is why it is under a special "wear item warranty" and not under just the normal manufacturs defect warranty type. Road and Track even got their long term test cars pads replaced under warranty and they even admitted to taking it auto-crossing for a weekend. Subaru is probably pretty nice to the magazines though.
 

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i think gas should be a warranty item. i mean... i go through gas so quickly... taht can't be normal...
 

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Is the group buy still open?

well, it's -5 now, and I got the startup whine again. this time it lasted longer probably 2-3 seconds, and was in pitch with the RPMs. I checked the intake...no kazoo ;) since this only happens when the engine is cold, this is only in the morning (I park in a heated garage at work...thank the Lord) I couldn't rouse my roommates to help me out on this...bunch of delinquents...

Here's an observation. When I start the engine cold, my RPM's stay up around 2k when I depress my clutch. When I let go of the clutch, it drops down to the 1.5k RPM range, which is normal for the 'warmup' cycle...I found this interesting. I thought maybe it has something to do with the clutch, but even after the clutch was released, the sound was still there.

Yeah, I'm glad about the brakes being covered under warranty, since the couple hundred bucks it would be for pads now will go for pinks in the spring. :)
 

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TL-racer/STi-driver said:
http://www.subaru.com/owners/care/warranty/middle.jsp

The pads should be covered under warranty until 3yr/36K.
no, no, no, no. read that again.the pads wearing out from use is NOT covered under the warranty. if you somehow BROKE a pad, that would be covered. if one of your calipers mysteriously split in two, THAT would be covered. worn out pads are normal wear and tear, and aren't covered, nor should they be. if the pads were warranty items, why wouldn't the tires, or the oil/air/fuel filters.
NORCAL- No, you read it--


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Mine does the exact same thing. The belts are the culprit. It has been very cold here(Toronto) and the first time I heard the "noisemaker" squeal I wondered as well. After now hearing it every morning for the better part of a month, I can tell you...it's just the belts. As they get a little heat in them the noise goes away.

In other words...don't worry about it. :p
 

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I heard that wazoo sound today, it was like -3F. Lasted about half a second, and the car lurched forward a bit (I was in neutral). W3rd.
 

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It is weird. Whenever I start the car when it is really cold and I pull it out of gear and then let the clutch out and the car seems like it lurches forward like it is still in gear for a moment. Is is slipping out of gear when this happens?
 

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Another Canadian here, and yeah, what youre hearing is normal. Those cold winter days always make the STi whine a little bit. The colder it gets, the more sounds it makes. Yesterday it was so cold that when I started it and let my foot off the clutch, the RPM dropped enough to stall it :lol: Have to feather the gas a little...the joys of winter.
 
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