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The SS304 P20 exhaust housing is installed and the turbo is ready for business. I was too excited to take photos. I wanted to get the thing installed since the day before I had gone to a job interview that lasted eight hours. The OE housing was difficult to remove, but the new housing was easy to install. The fit and finish looks good and the weight difference felt minimal between the two. The IWG port is much larger in the new housing, and the internal finish looked great. The physical dimensions of the housing appear to be different. Time will tell how it holds up.
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In other news, I finally got back in touch with DRP today. I guess they've been having email issues, which is why I've been out of communication with them. Going to do my best to haul the car up this Friday or Saturday. It's a 5 hour trip without a trailer being pulled behind a '99 F-150. Up and back in one day should be interesting.
 

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These UHaul Auto Transport trailers are heavy. With the STI loaded on it, they're very heavy. Kudos to Ford and whoever put the 4.6l triton motor in the 1999 F150. 230hp and 300lbs torque sounds like not much when towing 5600ish pounds. It does just fine, not fast, but fine. Stopping, on the other hand isn't fun. Thankfully Florida is mostly flat. Tear down should start next week if DRP has an opening.
 

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One very long Saturday later and the car is now in Jacksonville at DRP. Got up with my wife at 3am and drove up the center of the state. It was foggy for the first part of the trip, and not being used to towing made the process nerve-wracking for the first two or so hours. Once I could see and the fog lifted it wasn't so bad, however I won't be putting the car on a trailer to get it back. Going to pick it up and drive it on surface streets all the way. It'll be longer but the towing experience wasn't something I want to repeat.
Eagerly waiting to see what the word is on my car and how much OE stuff has to be replaced.
 

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i'm excited to see how it turns out. i used that same trailer when i blew the engine to take mine to IAG. man was that trailer a pain, i also lost my splitter when unloading it, i guess loading it went over the top where the front end hangs over, but unloading it caught the back and just completely tore it. i just trashed it haha. lesson learned.
 

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I had read about that same experience so we purchased some 2x4's and 2x6's to raise up the loading angle for the ramps. I then placed the wood under the tires before it hit the tire stops. Otherwise I'd have been replacing a front bumper. That thing also weighs about 2200lbs by itself lol. My truck was perfectly fine the whole way, but you could tell that I was pushing the limits.
I'm excited too. Debating telling DRP to just slap a DOM 1.5XT-R and ETS TMIC on her but... I like being married.
 

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I had read about that same experience so we purchased some 2x4's and 2x6's to raise up the loading angle for the ramps. I then placed the wood under the tires before it hit the tire stops. Otherwise I'd have been replacing a front bumper. That thing also weighs about 2200lbs by itself lol. My truck was perfectly fine the whole way, but you could tell that I was pushing the limits.
I'm excited too. Debating telling DRP to just slap a DOM 1.5XT-R and ETS TMIC on her but... I like being married.
hahaha that last comment had me cracking up lol. my wife is all for me modding/racing my car, but i dont think she fully understands how expensive that can get. the dom 1.5 is my favorite stock location turbo, by far. and yours is a va chassis, if you arent on e85 and really really pushing that turbo you wouldnt even need the ets tmic, the standard one outperforms it (killerb has quite a bit of testing/data to back that up).
 

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I have to give my wife credit. She's been very understanding about this whole situation. Never once has she complained about how much it's going to cost, she's only concerned that we're doing it correctly.
The TMIC decision is a difficult one. I know that the ETS is solid, there are folks around here who have both that and stock and they're both getting the job done. I really want to see the KillerB TMIC unit, but I'm sure they're busy getting real world test data. I know there are some crazy kids who are even spraying meth on the intercooler (not in the intake tract) to get it to cool down faster than just water. There's also an intercooler from Wagner Tuning that caught my eye a while back. It's tube and fin, not bar and plate, and looks pretty solid. I'm a sucker for trying out new stuff, which often leads me to doing things over again. But it's all about the adventure.
 

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I have to give my wife credit. She's been very understanding about this whole situation. Never once has she complained about how much it's going to cost, she's only concerned that we're doing it correctly.
The TMIC decision is a difficult one. I know that the ETS is solid, there are folks around here who have both that and stock and they're both getting the job done. I really want to see the KillerB TMIC unit, but I'm sure they're busy getting real world test data. I know there are some crazy kids who are even spraying meth on the intercooler (not in the intake tract) to get it to cool down faster than just water. There's also an intercooler from Wagner Tuning that caught my eye a while back. It's tube and fin, not bar and plate, and looks pretty solid. I'm a sucker for trying out new stuff, which often leads me to doing things over again. But it's all about the adventure.
yeah anything ETS is going to be solid, just at that power level i dont think it's really worth upgrading, you can always drop a turbo and log and if you need an intercooler get one after. and KillerB's stuff really is top notch, i'm sure theirs will be awesome. i personally have a spearco tmic, i have debated swapping to a fmic, but for the foreseeable future, i'll stick with spearco.

i havent seen meth sprayed on the intercooler, however i have seen people run a C02 fogger system to hypercool the tmic. I have debated running C02 on a WOT switch and setting it up with an on/off button so i'm only using the C02 at the track, but i do have to check with class rules to see if it is class legal. hopefully it is. lol.

i have a 2 friends running water to air intercooler setups, i need to research more on those, both of those guys exclusively run autocross, so they put ice in the water part of the system to keep it cool on autocross runs.
 

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DRP has the car torn down. No real metal in the oil so that's a relief. Completely forgot to ask them what the failure point was today, but I honestly couldn't really care less.
Parts are ordered and the car should be back together... maybe this week? We'll see. Due to concerns from my CFO about scope creep on the budget we did not buy a new turbo or intercooler. I also didn't go speed density since I'm sticking with a TMIC and DRP isn't comfortable drilling a top-mount intercooler for speed density. Those funds went to IAG pitch stop, transmission and motor mounts, since the motor is out anyway, and there's no additional labor to install.
I'm racking up quite the list of parts that I need to sell after this process is done. Not looking forward to that.
 

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Today is six months since I last drove my car without something going wrong, coolant spraying all over the engine bay, white smoke coming out of the exhaust or some other calamity.
I miss my car.


Also I'm short timing at my current job so I'm bored.
 

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The SS304 P20 exhaust housing is installed and the turbo is ready for business. I was too excited to take photos. I wanted to get the thing installed since the day before I had gone to a job interview that lasted eight hours. The OE housing was difficult to remove, but the new housing was easy to install. The fit and finish looks good and the weight difference felt minimal between the two. The IWG port is much larger in the new housing, and the internal finish looked great. The physical dimensions of the housing appear to be different. Time will tell how it holds up.
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In other news, I finally got back in touch with DRP today. I guess they've been having email issues, which is why I've been out of communication with them. Going to do my best to haul the car up this Friday or Saturday. It's a 5 hour trip without a trailer being pulled behind a '99 F-150. Up and back in one day should be interesting.
As on OEM+ fanboy I love whats going on here. I may have missed it, but is this P20 housing ball bearing? This was the route I planned to go with my RA. Giorgio from ASE said he could build me a VF48/P20 turbo with a dual ceramic ball bearing CHRA. When he approached me about the S208 Vf58 I went the Twin Scroll route. I was always curious what the ultimate OEM+ Single Scroll turbo build would look like on the dyno.
 

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This is a P20 journal bearing housing from Mamba. If Pavel hadn't given the housing a recommendation I wouldn't have purchased it. I did not ask about a ball bearing CHRA mostly because I'm not sure how long I'll keep this setup, also because I didn't think to ask.
I did chat on Nasioc with one person that put this compressor and turbine setup in a VF52. His statement to me was that this combination does not hesitate to build boost when going on throttle. That said if I can get a ball bearing CHRA swapped onto this unit that would be of interest to me. I'll have to ask Pavel if he can do it. If not I'd reach out to other shops, but I'm leery about using anything other than IHI bearings, after watching a few videos about cheap bearing systems.
 
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