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kinda interesting how they gave track times with just speculation

just something to add

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RE: I would be willing to go in on a group buy, but ...

Very interesting.

Could they be doing some extrapolation of specs from the UK and JDM cars to get these numbers or do they actually have a US spec car?

I also got my Road & Track today. They do a grip shootout between a 360 Modena, Z06, 911 Turbo, Elise, Evo VII (UK spec), M3, Boxster S and MP3. Evo placed 4th below 1st place Ferrari, 2nd Lotus and 3rd 911.
 

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If this is infact true, those "soft-launch" numbers scare me! :(

That means if true you have to completely trash the clutch to get it to go...

Is the low end really THAT bad?

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yeh i agree with u JJ. almost 18 seconds on a 1/4 with a normal start... thats like really bad lol

i think my astrovan beats it :)



anyway i think i might email the site and ask them where they got those numbers from, i know they used to have the JDM STi specs on there, and im positive they were different number since i looked at them often.

hopefully ill get a responce
 

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Well, one thing you have to realize it depends on what they consider a soft launch. Probably from idle on the tach and then a light feather to full throttle.

One thing to think about is the turbo lag, something Scoobs are NOTORIOUS for. I'm not worried, but i do know that in Japan their STi seemed to launch harder and quicker to 60mph than the Euro one. The Euro STi is only rated to 265, and their WRX is 218 vs 227 US, so I think we will get something a bit more powerful and that they used UK sources on it.
 

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I found this on the main page.......

In this section you will find performance statistics for lots of models of automobiles. The performance numbers were calculated using the famous Cartest simulation software plus several other tools. I've tried as best as I can to be as fair and accurate about the information and performance numbers. I will be adding new models frequently, so check back often. If you'd like to request that certain models be added, email me.


Poop, i thought they were actual track times... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Also found this for your question about soft launch:



Hard Launch: The cars are launched in the manner that achieves the best possible results. For most manual transmission, this means a clutch dump at a high RPM. For automatics, this is achieved through power-braking.

Soft Launch: The cars are launched by slipping the clutch at a low RPM for manuals or simply stepping off the brake onto the accelerator for automatics. This is similar to accelerating the car from a stop in normal driving conditions.
 

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Soft Launch: The cars are launched by slipping the clutch at a low RPM for manuals or simply stepping off the brake onto the accelerator for automatics. This is similar to accelerating the car from a stop in normal driving conditions.
Is this everybody’s definition of a soft launch?
 

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I've only had one test drive in a WRX (seemed pretty quick to me). Can a MY02 owner comment on acceleration from the stoplight in "everyday" conditions? I don't expect to have to dump the clutch at high rpm just to get her going off the line. These numbers seem to imply you do.
 

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I think the fact that the numbers were made with a software program tells you how loosely accurate they are. To me, this is just "another rumor." Its like someone saying that we'll get a 320 hp engine and turbo in the STi b/c the Japanese have it. SO?!


Well,I would say that I figured that soft launch and hard launch would mean those two. That seems to be my definition of a soft launch--the regular way you would drive the car, b/c I know I will not be hard launching all the time..I want to keep this car ya know?!
 

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Most of the numbers look bogus to me. Check out the 1/4 mile times for the "Hard Launch" vs. the "Soft Launch". There is 4.2 seconds difference in the time, yet only .5 MPH difference in speed. These results are nearly impossible to acheive in the real world, and would have to be attributed to an extremely overpowered, under-tractioned car (severe wheel spin at launch). A 17 second quarter usually yields a top speed of less than 90 MPH.

Just my $.02

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The numbers on the soft launch sound a little bogus when you take into account they differ by 4.5 seconds across the board. From the 0-30 to the 0-100 times they are almost all off by exactly 4.5 seconds. So how do they get 0-30 in 5.9 vs 1.4 seconds? Sounds like a mistake.
 

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I drive a UK spec STi and its true about the tubo lag, below 3800 rpm its like driving a van but once the revs get up above 4000 it pulls very, very hard to the red line and the warning light and buzzer are a must. As for starts, a soft start with the engine revving about 3500-4000 with a little clutch slipping is a must if you need some decent performance after taking off and if you are really serious 6500 will get an all wheel spin on bitumen and an appreciative look from the porche driver when they finally catch you.......
 
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