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Just curious to see if people are planning to go to driving school with their STi this summer? I know people are going to be going autoxing, but I'm wondering if poeple are going to be going to the actual racetracks to test their STi's at speed....

I just signed up for a BMW driving school on a race course this summer, just so I can know how to handle the STi, just curious to see if I'll see other STi's at these events or not. :)

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I did Evolution autox school's stage 1 last spring. Best $$$ you can spend on a car....learning who to really drive the thing.
 

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I definitely will. I don't know about a school but I will be going to open track days or something. Have to see what AWD is like on a performance car pushed to it's limits.
 

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does anyone know what racing schools are good? I live in New York, so something in the East would be nice.
 

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well, I always go to the BMW driving schools, cause you get to take your car to the school, and it's only like 200-300 bucks for about 3 hours of track time, which is pretty good....you get your personal instructor who talks you through each of the turns at the track, and it's a lot of fun...

the skip barber type of schools are out of my budget given that they are in the thousands of dollars range...; you don't have to have a BMW to attend...www.bmwcca.org

(note, I don't have a BMW. :) just a STi)

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i'm definately looking for driving schools. wojo and i are doing a FATT (friday at the track) at summit point, wv in july. i think they have some basic instruction with that. also, a good buddy of mine just recommended carguys (www.carguys.com) as the best school in the east. (they have a class up at watkins glen in july!). i'm in the east (dc) so i'm going to be checking 'em out. i'd definately prefer a place where i can take my own car. i'll also check out www.bmwcca.org
 

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Now what I would love to do is a rallying school. I would not want to use my STi though. The one I have seen you use their cars.
 

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from my limited experience, bmwcca are the best value.

they are well run, affordable, and respected by the track folks and my insurance company as reputable instructional schools

i have done two at lime rock and NHIS, and am signed up for one at Watkins Glen in July. the first two were in mu E36 ///M3, but i anticipate having the STi by the Watkins Glen dates.

Is this the one you signed up for?

I autocross with them too, at Devens in Ayer MA. www.boston-bmwcca.org

they are not the only game in town, but a good bunch of guys, and a good value.
 

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I have gotten confirmation of three days of Evolution school (Phases 1, 2, and 3). I am worried that my STi may not come in however -- I am #2 on my dealer's list and they are still waiting for the first allocation of 1 car to arrive. If, come late June / early July, they do not get the right color or the dealer pulls some markup cr*p, then I will be driving the Miata instead (and really hating the 7+ hour drive each way in an un-air conditioned uncomfortable car).

I am also going to go to either Portland Raceway's "Subaru Experience" or the BMWCCA driving school in Spokane -- both are conveniently scheduled for the same weekend in late October (grrr...). Oh yeah, going to do a hill climb in September, but that isn't a school. I'd love to do more, but there isn't much around where I live (that I know of). Lots of people here go to various Miata events in California, but they won't take non-Miata's any more. Meanwhile, I'm going to as many autocross weekends as possible, where everyone asks where my STi is (and I reply that I wish I knew).
 

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from my limited experience, bmwcca are the best value.

they are well run, affordable, and respected by the track folks and my insurance company as reputable instructional schools

i have done two at lime rock and NHIS, and am signed up for one at Watkins Glen in July. the first two were in mu E36 ///M3, but i anticipate having the STi by the Watkins Glen dates.

Is this the one you signed up for?

I autocross with them too, at Devens in Ayer MA. www.boston-bmwcca.org

they are not the only game in town, but a good bunch of guys, and a good value.

I'll go along with this too. I've done BMW CCA schools at the Glen and Mid-Ohio. They're great fun. I'll be at the Glen in September 27 & 28 - maybe somewhere else before that - if I ever get my car...

Cost is $35/yr. You don't have to drive a BMW to join. When I first joined, our chapter president drove a 944. The current chapter president tracks a Camaro - but has a 5er for the street.


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I would like to do a driving school but I wonder, how hard is it on your tires? Is it like going to a track day? Would I significantly diminish the life of the tires if I went to one?
 

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when I went with my all seasons, the tires started to 'chunk' i.e. small chunks were missing from the tire near the tire edges. I ended up driving on the all seasons for another 1-2 years.

with the 070's, I don't know how much it would scrub off.

the biggest thing that the school will use up is brakes. I end up using up a set a brake pads for the weekend, so I always bring 1-2 extra sets with me.
 

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I would like to do a driving school but I wonder, how hard is it on your tires? Is it like going to a track day? Would I significantly diminish the life of the tires if I went to one?
I'd tend to say the most wear occurs on tires and brakes. Tire wear shouldn't be too bad the first couple weekends, but the STi is a very fast car & will need a lot of brake to bring it down from speed. A lot of the Porsche guys run stock brake pads as the Brembos are quite good. I ran PF90s or Hawk Blues & they're awesome. Kinda like throwing out an anchor. :D Part of the brake wear isuue is also what kind of car you're driving and how the brakes come from the factory. If they're not up to track drving - and most cars won't be - you'll go thru pads and maybe rotors fast. Things with good factory braking systems are usually OK with minor mods. BMWs, P-cars, Vettes and the STi should fall into this category. Part of the key to performance braking is using them hard and for a short time. Helps keep things cooler - but they'll teach you this stuff at the track.

Brake fluid needs to be changed, preferably to something with a high boiling point. I dunno if the STi runs DOT 4 or 5. I used ATE Typ 200 & Super Blue in my BMW. No problems.

The STi is gonna be a lot of fun at the track - but you're gonna have to have a lot of respect for it. You could get in way over your head if you don't listen to your instructor.


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I did a M3 school years back outstanding. Had A M3 good car but STi rules. Alwasys do MC Safety classes. We have a class in July for Subaur defense driving and safety will go.
 

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I just got back from my first day of class. I find myself randomly bursting out in laughter and simply can't wipe the smile off my face.

EVERYBODY who buys a STi MUST to go to one of these classes if you really want to know what this car can do.

My class was at Mountain View in Mead Colorado. I can highly recommend Go 4 It Racing at 303-666-4113.
 
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