Which one of these turbos spool up faster and has better performance? The FP Green or the APS SR56 ball bearing?
Let me know,
Let me know,
05_STi said:The fatboy wheel is nothing but a gimmick that Deadbolt uses to sell their turbos. When it all comes down to it the Green, SZ49, GT49, and Blouch Dominator I, all put down the same amount of power with the right supporting mods and tune.
Unless you can provide me with some charts that show the almighty Fatboy wheel outspooling the Green and producing more power, I fail to see its advantage.
BTW the reason I say the Fatboy wheel is nothing but a gimmick, is because its nothing more than a clipped T31 turbine (80s technology).
ninjaboy76 said:Here are some graphs of the SZ55 with the "gimmick" fatboy wheel, and if it is such a gimmick, then why would it be patented by Deadbolt, and if they wanted to out do FP, they would already have that in the bag by offer the lifetime warranty. I've had an FP green and I can honestly tell you that my SZ55 (a bigger turbo) will out spool it all day. I wouldn't go back to a green even if you offered to install it, tune it, and give me cash on top of that.
does page 7 work on that thread?, I still want to see waht 4th gear data logging looks like. I have a regular SZ49 w/ 2.4" outlet, thinking about upgrading if the SZ55FB can outspool AND outpower my current turbo.ninjaboy76 said:Here are some graphs of the SZ55 with the "gimmick" fatboy wheel, and if it is such a gimmick, then why would it be patented by Deadbolt, and if they wanted to out do FP, they would already have that in the bag by offer the lifetime warranty. I've had an FP green and I can honestly tell you that my SZ55 (a bigger turbo) will out spool it all day. I wouldn't go back to a green even if you offered to install it, tune it, and give me cash on top of that.
I am fully aware that both offer a 3" inlet and no I am not comparing 3" Green with a 2.4" SZ49, if you look at the charts I posted both turbos have 2.4" inlets and 7cm^2 exhaust housings. The only reason I mentioned a 3" Green with the upgraded exhaust housing was to highlight difference in price between the two. So is my comparison still invalid?JJ18Sniper said:Are you comparing a 3" Green to a 2.4" SZ49? SZ49's have the option for 3" first of all, and is that SZ49 with the fatboy wheel. You need to make sure the comparions are valid.
Yes those things might need to be replaced, and when they do all I have to do is ship my turbo to deadbolt and not have to worry about a headache. I've already seen a few Garrett 30Rs crapping out on people. That right there is >$1000 just for replacement. I to am here to offer options and opinions and I too could careless which turbo they choose, but I can at least chime in about my personnal experience having now owned both turbos.05_STi said:The reason for my calling the "patented" Fatboy turbine a gimmick is because is most cases spool up and power produced are identical.
Case and point:
Now the Green:
Notice they both produce about the same amount of power and spool nearly the same, yet an SZ49 costs about $1700, whereas now you can get an 3" Green with an 8cm^2 exhaust housing can be had for about $200 less. As for the "lifetime warrantly" notice how it coveniently leaves out the parts that will more than likely need to replaced:
-Turbine wheel and shaft
-Compressor wheel retaining nut
So where's the advantage that I'm failing to see? In the end its all a matter of personal preference and what you think is justified in terms of price.