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I gotta do the sunroof thing. Just crossed the SRT-4 off my list cuz it ain't an option.
Can anyone tell me if this will be an option for the STI?
Can anyone tell me if this will be an option for the STI?
Sunroof option?
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ummm nope. btw, srt-4 and sti have a pretty big price gap between them, for some reason that strikes an odd note to me why you'd be considering those two given their large price differences (not to mention performance differences). so in short, i guess you'll have to cross the sti off your list because NO SUNROOF!!!!!! too bad.
P.S. the '04 wrx is going to get a moon roof.
P.S. the '04 wrx is going to get a moon roof.
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4MLA1FN - I don't think that's the reason, after all, it will be an option on the '04 WRX. The cross member is behind the sunroof. The reason it's not on the STi is that it would add unnecessary weight.
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Both of the street Evo VIIIs at the LA show had sunroofs.
Amen brother - this car is about "go fast" so anything added to the car that does not add to performance (or just look damn cool) is counterproductive. And like was said, the sunroof adds un-needed weight, reduces torsional rigidity, and only serves as something that can malfunction, leak, fade your interior (turn your rich blue escaine to powder blue), and burn your ass when sitting in traffic. I believe in creature comforts like cruise, air, power accessories, and stereo for commuting, but sunroof, and leather for that matter, just causes more concerns in operation, quality, and appearance upkeep. If you want a sunroof and leather, drop a larger wad and get an M3 (or M5), and hope that you never encounter an STi on the road so you don't have to stare at its taillights as they fade into the distance.
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wait, do we know that the sti is using the same frame as the wrx? i was under the impression was strengthened. (hmm. then again, that would add weight. but then again, they've reduced weight in other parts of the car, perhaps to compensate.) oh, i dunno. i thought i saw a pic with a brace that was quite far forward. i'll try to dig it up.SnowbordrWRX said:
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found it:
http://www.subaru.net./events/2003/Detroit/pages/P1070038.htm
this very likley the wrx frame though, so i'd better acquiesce.
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Strengthened, definitely. That doesn't necessarily mean they added cross members...they simply could have thickened up existing members and used stronger materials, which is what I believe was done.
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It doesn't even necessarily mean thickening existing members. A chassis can be strengthened just by seam-welding. This is what the Lancer/Cedia goes through to become an Evo. It does add weight, but I doubt it's as much as what you would get by adding members or thickening existing structure.
If the STi has a seam-welded chassis compared to the regular WRX, then all the better for stiffness and handling. The WRX has already been praised for it's great torsional stiffness, which was one of the major goals for the change from the GC8/old-style Impreza, even with the weight penalty.
If the STi has a seam-welded chassis compared to the regular WRX, then all the better for stiffness and handling. The WRX has already been praised for it's great torsional stiffness, which was one of the major goals for the change from the GC8/old-style Impreza, even with the weight penalty.
I'm not so sure about this. There was a big argument about it on i-club. If you have to cut braces to add the roof, then yeah it decreases torsional rigidity of the car. However, if it can go between them then the decrease is utterly neglibable. How's torsional rigidity on the "Lancer Premium" ?
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