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Ok now that Evo is coming out soon I just wanted to know what are some of the advangages the STi has over the EVO and vice versa. Me and my friend are talking about which one is better and I need some ammunition to defend the STi. I know that the EVO is a good car and im not disrespecting it but i just want to prove my friend wrong :wink: . So far my friend has the upper hand because he says that EVO has the AYC and the electronic diff so it has better traction control then the STi. I know the the STi has a lower center of gravity but that doesnt compare. Can you guys help me?
 

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for one, if you read the latiest car and driver they had a page article in there saying that the US spec EVO will not be getting those features due to high cost! :D But they did mention it might be an option in the coming up years! Anther reason why not to buy an EVO, shit look at them 1990 talons and the early eclipses, shit they have more problems then my god dam computer freezing! so i see and hear all postive things about the STI from magzines to internet, to even racers at tracks! this is what made me be an STI fan and also put a down payment on one!!!!One other thing MITSUBISHI's are SLOW ahahhaha i dont even wanna open up the librarys of deaths when it came to I VS the sh**bishi 2.slow! ahahhahah jus like the CUMSTAINS!!!5.slow's
 

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Just ask him why Mitsu would need to have a 0 down/0 payments/0 interest deal going if they had cars that people wanted to buy on their own. Mitsu has had some serious quality control issues and class action suits against them. Also, ask him why Mitsu is pulling out of the WRC if the Lancer Evo is so good.

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Most automotive dealerships are offering 0/0/0 because of the state our economy is in. Look at Ford (say the taurus and the explorer), these two vehicles are recall prone but people still buy them, and in mass quantities.

Mitsu pulled out of WRC for various reasons. Sure, quality could be one but they also need to rethink their strategy i.e. drive/co-driver duo. Tommi Makinen in his evo 6.5 won many events. Also, the Evo Vii is one of the largest vehicles in WRC.
 

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Mitsu was doing the 0/0/0 thing WAY before the economy hit the skids...
 

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Mitsu was doing the 0/0/0 thing WAY before the economy hit the skids...
You stole the words out of my mouth.

Mitsu is less quality than Subaru..period. Anyone can make a fast car..look at the new Dodge SRT-4..would I buy it..no.

Historically the Evo has been more raw compared to the STi, whereas the STi has been more "liveable" with on the streets. Typically the Evos have been a bit lighter weight and more frantic. Past models of the Evo have beaten the STi in handling b/c of the active differentials and electronic gizmos to put it ahead of the mechanical bits on the STi. You can tell your friend that now that the Evo won't have those in the US..the STi is gonna be a better bet ANYDAY!!!

OH yeah..personally the Evo7 versus the STi7..I would take the STi7 anyday. Mitsu was having problems in WRC b/c they made the Evo7 too long, too populace oriented and not extreme enough like past Evos..ie; 5 and 6.
 

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Thanks for all of your responses. Now that the EVO VIII is not going to have the electronic diff the STi is a lot better. I would still have choosen the STi over an EVO because its such an awsome car.
 

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Personally I would rather have the mechanical diffs over the electronically controlled ones for reliability reasons anyday.

For the average user, or even 99% of the users buying either the STi or Evo, they are the same car. None of us are going to be able to use the cars to their 100% capability. If you do, you are either an awesome driver (not straight lines, but a track) or you are gonna kill yourself.
 

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Evo poorly screwed together. Big problems with Trans. 2nd gear impossible until warm. Suspension rock hard. Drove one a couple of months ago in the UK. Very fast but that ride is not something I could live with everyday.
 

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Which evo did you drove?

Sti has 6 speed but the evo has much larger fmic.

We already know the evo has goodies and we'll see which one is better once the sti specs are released.

Evo is limited and sti will be much easier to obtain at MSRP.
 

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I don't think you've been following the rumor mill too closely. The STi (rumored, at least) is going to be a much more limited offering compared with the Evo, initially at least. There are supposedly going to be up to 5000 Evos in the first run compared with 1700-3000 STis in its first run. I believe that it is going to be MUCH easier to find an Evo at MSRP, or below, than it will be to find an STi at MSRP. The majority of STis will likely be spoken for before delivery, which is going to drive the price of those on the showroom floor (if any make it there) skyhigh. As an example, the dealership where I have my deposit down (first in line, I might add!!!) says that they are going to offer the STis for $5000 over MSRP!!! :eek: Luckly, I signed a contract for MSRP, before the new manager developed his delusional state!
 

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MSRP for an STI- only if you're lucky

I agree, not too metion Mitsu doesn't have any following, besides those who have heard of the Evo from video games or friends. The STi has a following built on people who already own a WRX.

I wont even go with the reliability that most people see in Mitsubishi..or lack thereof!
 

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My reasoning.

Sti was never a limited produced car. The subaru factory can built as much as their are demands. Sort of like the 10,000 wrx right? Nuff said about the accuracy on production numbers.

I'm just specualtion on the # of evo Mitusbishi are able to produce. I know they would want to product as much a possible and the wrx sucess has forced mitsubishi to bring over such a car.

The # of evo produced is like 10,000 world wide and it's common sense that to produce twice as much just for the U.S. market is unlikely. Expeciall the first year.

Rumors are rumors, anyways that is how i feel based on how many evo i see and how many sti i've seen in asia.
 

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True.....as someone else mentioned, whether it be the UK or Japan, if someone wanted an STi, you just went and got one. Kinda like a Z28.

The US may get to that state eventually, but it does look like SOA is going to bottle feed the US at least for the first year. I suppose they want to see some hard numbers on the demand for it first, and then ramp up production full tilt.

We will all soon see...
 

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If the automobile industry is like the aerospace industry, production would first be low-rate initial production (LRIP) ...meanwhile they're also working out kinks and trying to find ways to cut cost and streamline manufacturing. Then they ramp up to full-rate production (FRP)...which is one reason I'm not getting the STi when it first comes out, will probably wait until 2005 to get one :)
 

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Re: 2 vs 1

But when the car is here, it is going to be a car that has been released already for some time in other countries and our version is just a combination of certain parts from those other coutries' cars so shouldn't all the kinks have been worked out long before it comes here?
 

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Exactly - this is not a new car, just new to our market. The Sti isn't really new anyway, except for maybe a few components - the "newness" is mostly cosmetic. The '02 WRX was new to our market, but was not a new car due to its existance in foreign markets for some time. And to my knowledge, there are no problems with the '02 WRX (or at least I have not had a single anyway). I have no problem buying a year-one STi - I expect no problems.
 

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Here here

Ok guys, I've owned both of these cars. I just sold my EVO 4, (which had the EVO 5 engine, tranny and ECU). I drove every Evo from the 3 up to the 7. Now, in all fairness, I don't think that a drive or two gives me the right to judge these Evo's. However, first impressions do count, right? I mean we don't get to keep a car for a week before we buy it. So first impressions is all we have to go on. Let me tell you, the STi is a much much more superior automobile than the EVO. Lets face it, the standard of quality is an issue with Mitsubishi. From the first drive with the STi, (after owning my MODIFIED EVO for 1 year) I decided to buy it. The car is just stronger, sturdier and so much more accurate. The handling is a definite winner. By the way, the suspension is stiffer on the STi. It is a notable difference. I love it because it will out perform the EVO's anywhere. I can go on an on here but my wife is bugging me to have dinner. Oh, one last thing guys. I installed a delimiter in my car. Last Saturday and I did 162 MPH in my car. It could have done a bit more and i've only done breathing mods, and I still have the stock intake. What was that Mr. EVO? Thought so!
 
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