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^^^^ what he said.

If you are gonna run 5/6 points, you NEED a roll bar or cage AND a fixed position bucket seat(like the Recaro Pole Position for example).

The 5/6 points require a roll bar to prevent head/neck/spine injury in a roll over.

A roll bar requires a fixed back seat. Why? Because if you are driving around without a helmet, get into an accident and the reclining seat reclines you are looking at brain damage or death when your head hits the roll bar/cage.

Also having reclining seats with a roll bar/cage is useless since the bar prevents you from reclining :lol:
 

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if you have a roll bar the seat will still recline freely and your head will not hit it in the event of a rollover. maybe with a more complex cage this would be an issue but with a basic 4-point rollbar (like the autopower for example) I can't see how it would be an issue.
 

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umm im gonna use the harnesses for daily driving most of the time... cuz riders dont like how the car jerks when going fast...:lol:

and umm... wouldnt a 4 point be safer than regular belts?

and ive never used 5/6 point belts before.. do they hurt your crotch?:lol: seriously tho..
 

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If you want to get a good fixed seat that fits good, try the sparco pro 2000. I am 6'1 215 36" waist. The seat is snug, but not tight. It is a full race seat though and will not recline. This is the seat that I will be installing in my '04 (after alot of o.t.). I would love the Prodrive's, but I am afraid that because they are meant for the JDM market, that they will be too small and I am too set in my ways to start drinking diet coke. My .02 cents.
 

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FujiApples said:
and umm... wouldnt a 4 point be safer than regular belts?
Depends. The stock seatbelt system is designed to give a certain amount under impact to absorb some of the stress of the crash. It's factored into the crash zones of the car, just like the spare tire is.

A harness is designed NOT to give at all under any stress. It's designed to hold you securely in a racing seat in a car with a cage. This will make any given collision much more violent because the crash zones have been taken out of the car and your restraint is not absorbing any kinetic energy from a crash. All of that energy gets absorbed by your neck, hence the recent move to the HANS system.

What I would do instead is get a CG-lock. This will lock the lap belt in place to hold you in your seat, while the chest strap is still free to absorb impact. And they're only $40 instead of several hundred for a full harness. Plus, it's easily removable and does not damage your belts.
 

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aspensti05 said:
If the roof is compromised in a car with no bar or cage the 4 point system lets you compress. The 5-6 point setup leaves only your head, neck and spine to compress.
That would be relying on the same behavior that will get you killed, to keep you from getting killed. ;)

Gramicci101 said:
If you're considering a 5/6 point harness, why are you even bothering with reclining seats? Most don't have sub strap holes in them. Get a recaro SPA or SPG or something. A 5 point is a little extreme for daily driving anyways.
I am trying to find a seat that is capable of doing double duty. My car is 95% daily driver, but sees the track several times a year. I'd never wear anything but a 3-point on the road, IMO anything else would be too dangerous without a roll cage and helmet.

Dave
 

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Thinking of selling the 04 sti buying a cadillac or something. I'm 6 ft 235 ,lbs, 63 years old. My left hamstring aches after about an hour. There is a raised reinforced lump in the front edges of the seats. Need longer wider seats, designed more for touring cruising geezers. Any ideas , thanks
 

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it's hard to say without sitting in them. OMP makes good seats.

for me, the sparco evo2 is perfect. I'm 6ft 1. 238lbs (have sat in this seat when i was 200) and it just fits.
 

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I have the sparco spx am 5'11'' ~230lbs and they fit pretty nice, snug but nice an firm...have heard great things about the recaro comfort line too
 

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I’m 6’ foot around 225-230 and fit fine. I would imagine if I gained 20-30 pounds my love handles may not fit as well though. If you cannot find a seat try extra cardio for 3 months and see if that helps?
 
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