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I was bitten by the mod bug many years ago and have done terrible things to my various slow N/A cars including a 2002 Dodge neon and a 2009 Mazda6.
Finally in a career where I can get a few nicer things (infosec, like many of the folks here I suspect) so I just picked up a 2019 STI with 13k miles and 2 previous owners. It's mostly stock but the head unit was replaced with an iDoing by one of the previous owners, and I drive on salted roads, so I can't justify keeping it stock to "hold value". I got this because it is likely the last time in human history that it will be possible to have the experience of modifying a quick, raw gas powered car to make it go fast (and that's a good thing on some level but younger me really wanted this so I'm gonna make it happen to the extent that I can).
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Anyway I just broke the seal with my first mod since I was tired of headlight glare in my rearview mirror. Turns out you can get a forester or other late-model subaru homelink mirror on ebay for less than 100 bucks and if you get one with all the harnesses it'll just plug right into a connector buried in the headliner:
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I don't plan on tracking or autocrossing much but wouldn't mind trying both. I'm not particularly competetive by nature, though - this is going to be something like a daily driver (I work remote and we have another car so I can afford some downtime, but I like having AWD in the winter).

I've already picked up one of the VSC/Vermont SportsCar GESI v2 catted downpipes since it looked promising for avoiding the P0420 check engine light but am hoping to find a tuner who can adjust O2 scaling just in case. Going to stage as follows:

Engine:
1. Cobb stage 1 for drivability once the warranty expires in a few months.
2. VSC Downpipe/KillerB ELH/EBCS/E-Tune once I feel the craving for more power.
3. Blouch Dom 1.5xtr/Fuel pump/injectors/hard turbo inlet/retune once the craving for power returns.

Maybe cylinder4 cooling/AOS somewhere in there. Probably keeping the stock airbox and catback unless mine rusts out.

I think this is pretty close to an optimal build for safe/reliable/quick, #3 should put me right around the safe limits of the stock block (for given value of safe of course).

Admittedly the ELH might not be strictly necessary or the most practical for step 2 but I'm already getting sick of the subie rumble/resonance at 3k and I figure downpipe/headers/up pipe are probably good to do all in one go.

I finally have a garage again, so I'm planning on doing as much of the work myself as possible (downpipe is almost certainly going to have to be a DIY for instance) but I might head over to one of the east coast tuning shops for step #3 if it ends up looking like too much, it's at least a couple hours drive to the nearest protuner though.
Sadly E85 is not available in my area but 93 octane is fairly common.

There's some suspension/audio mod plans as well but those seem to rely a lot more on individual preferences and there's less of a clear optimal strategy there.

Update: Just ordered a coated killerb header since I found a place that had one in stock (it's been almost impossible to find coated+v-band up-pipe so I pulled the trigger on it).

Will keep this updated as parts arrive and get installed.
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Congrats on your STi! Great start to what'll be a great street build. So refreshing to see someone who have done their research and thought the mod path through. Good on you.

Didn't know VSC made a GESi cat. I think ELH should be essential even on a stock car. Good choice with the KB ELH. Doesn't really get better than that.

Since you mentioned salt I assume it gets cold where you are. I'd look into the downsides of running an AOS in freezing temps. People have had bad experiences due to the condensation freezing and blocking the lines.

Since you have a garage I'd try to do everything yourself. Take your time, call a buddy if you need help. Way more satisfying and you know you've done it right. Subarus can be frustrating to work on but not impossible.

Oh and great color too btw. You're right, cars like these are becoming extinct. Looking forward to how the build progresses :)
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Thanks for the feedback and the tip about the air/oil separator! I’m in upstate New York so it gets below 0 some days. Might throw in a boost controller around step 2 instead for that matter. I still need to call some junk haulers to clear out the garage (lots of boxes from move-in and the previous owners didn’t end up actually cleaning out everything) but I’ve done stuff like cam swaps in an apartment complex parking lot so I can probably manage if I take my time, mostly just a question of recognizing when I get tired enough to make stupid mistakes. Way less of a risk when I don’t need the car to get to work the next day though.
Holy shot. Someone who has researched and has a good overall plan!!!! Lol. You don’t see that often.
Welcome. Also @yamahaSHO is a tuner on here if you haven’t already found I’ve. Be sure to keep the thread updated. Look forward to seeing it progress
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I agree with a5m and Karlot, its nice to see someone using the forum as a research tool instead of the usual help section. Welcome aboard, we need more new guys like you (y)

Im +1 on the AOS comment. Im not huge on them, neither is a5m lol 😂. Im in NJ, its gets cold here in the winter, colder up by you in NY. I dont argue withe the function of the AOS, I just think periodic PCV replacement will do just fine. If something is going to freeze, its going to freeze.

Also big +1 on ELH. Its one of those mods that really makes you wonder why you didnt do it sooner. The benefits of it can even be felt un tuned just by how well the car will respond on its own. Tuning will really extract the gains out of ELH and you'll really get a chance to reap the benefits of it. You'll definitely want ELH once you go for the DOM 1.5, trust me after a day or two, you wont miss that rumble at all.

I like you plans for modding, Id say add a ECBS with your 2nd step and tune.

VSC DP, is nice. Im suprised anyone got one, since it requires the big bucks 😄
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Eh I may have lurked and spent a few weeks absorbing the current state of STI modding before posting ;). Boost controller has now been added to the plan. The VSC Downpipe wasn’t that much more than the maperformance or Grimmspeed (though the shipping was borderline obscene $$$) and I figured it had the newer 400-cell GESI cat (Cobb and grimmspeed are I think still rocking the 300-cell) so might make it easier on my tuner. I was planning on getting in touch with @yamahaSHO once I have a clearer timeline on stage 2 (probably late summer/fall 2023) but it’s probably not a bad idea to build in some lead time and start that conversation earlier.
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Eh I may have lurked and spent a few weeks absorbing the current state of STI modding before posting ;). Boost controller has now been added to the plan. The VSC Downpipe wasn’t that much more than the maperformance or Grimmspeed (though the shipping was borderline obscene $$$) and I figured it had the newer 400-cell GESI cat (Cobb and grimmspeed are I think still rocking the 300-cell) so might make it easier on my tuner. I was planning on getting in touch with @yamahaSHO once I have a clearer timeline on stage 2 (probably late summer/fall 2023) but it’s probably not a bad idea to build in some lead time and start that conversation earlier.
Man you even researched before joining, brilliant! 🤯

Yeah not to sure on the specs of the VSC dp. Last time I checked they were like 2K or something like that. I didnt know the pricing change into the realm of Cobb or Grimmspeed. Either way cool to see someone doing something a little different.

One pro tip to add. Right before you go about your tuning/e-tuning. Throw in a fresh set of spark plugs for some good measures. Just my 2cents.
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this thread is already so wholesome haha. someone who has a bit of knowledge/research done already.

i do agree look into downsides, it probably gets colder where you are, but in northern va i have had zero issues with my IAG AOS. granted, it's snowed like 4x since i had it tops. probably less. and two of those times the car just lived in the garage lol.

i also agree with the equal length headers (if you can afford it, nothing beats killer b's setup, but dont get the max ve with your goals/plans). but it literally makes everything better. the only thing that is "not" better, would be sound. and that's honestly preference. i prefer the equal length sound. some dont.

if you do have questions feel free to post up, quite a few of us with good knowledge/experience here. otherwise, i look forward to seeing your build progress.
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Man you even researched before joining, brilliant! 🤯

Yeah not to sure on the specs of the VSC dp. Last time I checked they were like 2K or something like that. I didnt know the pricing change into the realm of Cobb or Grimmspeed. Either way cool to see someone doing something a little different.

One pro tip to add. Right before you go about your tuning/e-tuning. Throw in a fresh set of spark plugs for some good measures. Just my 2cents.
Ah thanks for the tip about the spark plugs. A little leery about the "one step colder" everyone seems to recommend in this climate until I get to higher power levels but a nice fresh set of iridums can't hurt.

i also agree with the equal length headers (if you can afford it, nothing beats killer b's setup, but dont get the max ve with your goals/plans). but it literally makes everything better. the only thing that is "not" better, would be sound. and that's honestly preference. i prefer the equal length sound. some dont.
So uh, I pulled the trigger on the killerb header since I found a coated one in stock with the v-band up-pipe - pretty much everyone has the coated 2-bolts in stock but I couldn't find the coated w/up-pipe as even an option on their site (or almost anywhere else) and the coating seems worth it and don't want any more potential for exhaust leaks than necessary.
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Ah thanks for the tip about the spark plugs. A little leery about the "one step colder" everyone seems to recommend in this climate until I get to higher power levels but a nice fresh set of iridums can't hurt.



So uh, I pulled the trigger on the killerb header since I found a coated one in stock with the v-band up-pipe - pretty much everyone has the coated 2-bolts in stock but I couldn't find the coated w/up-pipe as even an option on their site (or almost anywhere else) and the coating seems worth it and don't want any more potential for exhaust leaks than necessary.
NICE. (internal jealousy over those because i want killer b headers instead of my tomei setup) lololol.....v band is better than 2/3 bolt anyway. and no gasket to worry about. so no worries. i say no to the max ve because even killer b will tell you the standard holy header is better if you are under 600whp. which with a dom 1.5 you will be. the killer b header IS the best on the market bar none. so far, in the 10 years i have been in the subaru game, i saw one claiming to beat them, and when i looked at the tests, it was a max ve ets header vs a standard holy header on a 700+whp car. i'd bet if it was the max ve killer b vs the max ve ets, the killer b would win. i'd be surprised if it didnt. plus kiler b has a quality warranty. they are frequently on here and can reach out should you have questions.

i swapped to one step colder plus even on a stock turbo setup. i never had an issue even when i was daily driving it, but my climate isnt as cold as yours. i doubt there'd be an issue though. i'd be surprised if there was.
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Ah thanks for the tip about the spark plugs. A little leery about the "one step colder" everyone seems to recommend in this climate until I get to higher power levels but a nice fresh set of iridums can't hurt.



So uh, I pulled the trigger on the killerb header since I found a coated one in stock with the v-band up-pipe - pretty much everyone has the coated 2-bolts in stock but I couldn't find the coated w/up-pipe as even an option on their site (or almost anywhere else) and the coating seems worth it and don't want any more potential for exhaust leaks than necessary.
@Jay11STI Haha Jay yea we both are not fans of AOS's :LOL: I agree, maintaining the stock PCV system is more than adequate for a street car.

FYI, 19+ STi's (and 18 Type RA) come with one step colder plugs from the factory already. Subaru switched to NGK ILFR7H Laser Iridiums with a much tighter gap of 0.24 for the RA block (19+ STi).


Again just want to say how awesome this build is going so far with all the homework you've done. Great choice with the Killer B ELH, and as @Karlot said V-Band is better anyway. Most vape champs buy these cars solely for the "rumble" but first time I've heard of someone not liking it from the jump.

I always post this but here's a teaser of KB ELH goodness to come:

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FYI, 19+ STi's (and 18 Type RA) come with one step colder plugs from the factory already. Subaru switched to NGK ILFR7H Laser Iridiums with a much tighter gap of 0.24 for the RA block (19+ STi).

What!? really? I did not know that. Wow thats a tight gap, I guess 1 step colder was the right way to go all along. I guess even I learned something new today here :)
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What!? really? I did not know that. Wow thats a tight gap, I guess 1 step colder was the right way to go all along. I guess even I learned something new today here :)
Haha right?! They finally figured it out at the end :LOL: I was shocked too when I learned a while back. Definitely switching to them next time :D
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I always post this but here's a teaser of KB ELH goodness to come:
Holy balls that sounds amazing! Really looking forward to this now. I have to say I’m impressed with how friendly the community is on here, it’s really something.

Looks like I’m gonna need a wideband for the tune as well. Some folks on nasioc are getting away with relocating the stock upstream sensor to the bellmouth but seems iffy so probably makes sense to get something more reliable.
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Welcome!

Not sure what area of the country you're in, that or I may have missed it, but even in NJ I haven't had any issues with my IAG AOS. Having a garage is also a good thing to have to not only do work on the car, but to also have an area to keep the car at consistent temperatures which can negate the "potential" freezing risk.

I was also shocked at how tight the gap was for the 2019+ spark plugs, but since you have 13k or higher, it's good to have a fresh set in for tuning.
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VSC Downpipe arrived. It's gorgeous and incredibly lightweight. Will take more pictures when I take it out of the box to install, though that might be a while.
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You'll have to let us know if it triggers a CEL and the O2 scaling.
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You'll have to let us know if it triggers a CEL and the O2 scaling.
Absolutely! There aren’t a ton of these floating around but if we can at least find out if the gen2 gesi catalyst does the job we can start bugging some of the other manufacturers to use them.
That is a nice downpipe! Are you going to coat it? As you know, everything turns to crap after a winter in our area.
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That is a nice downpipe! Are you going to coat it? As you know, everything turns to crap after a winter in our area.
I hadn’t considered it since I figured stainless would be sufficient, but swaintech is only a couple hours away…
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