My thoughts exactly. I have my mechanic do it, as he charges me $10 (I supply oil/filter) and I sit there and watch/help him and he cna jump it up on a lift and change the oil in 10minutes flat. Much better then having billy bob go to work at it. Especially when their kids want to help their dad and they bang the crap outta your car and such (experience had, when i had the supra)....RadarOnPaws said:Twice I've had oil pan threads stripped from jiffy lube type places and once they dented an oil pan right at the bolt, creating a permanent leak for which the cure was to replace the oil pan. They have never put in the correct amount of oil for me, always overfilling by at least 1/2 qt.
Not the kind of treatment you want for your STi.
As for watching them like no tomorrow, unless they let you get in the pit with them, or let you personally fill the oil yourself, they can still damage the pan or overfill the oil. You'll never know until later.
jeffsti said:BOTTOM LINE.
Change it yourself. If you don't know how, shame-shame on you!
LEARN from someone that has some basic automotive knowledge. I change it every 3000 mi, but every 9000 I do a double oil change, which means that I ...
1) Drain the old oil, and replace plug
2) Fill back up with clean oil
3) Start the car up and run for a minute
4) Drain oil and filter.
5) Install new filter and add new oil again.
This way takes twice the oil, but your motor will have the cleanest oil possible.
No Jiffy lube will not give you this type of service, plus when you do it yourself, you know the job is done correctly. It's called peace of mind.
Not sure what you mean by voodoo myths, but the things I say happened at Jiffy Lube/Oil Can Henry's/Penzoil, etc, really did happen. If you choose to disbelieve that these places routinely screw stuff up, that's your problem. Over several years and cars, every time I broke my rule and took it in "just this once", something happened. I never went to the same place twice and I literally never came away without either too much oil, some form of oil pan or thread damage, or both.norcal_puller said:voodoo myths and voodoo mechanics are all I see in here.....
I always treat everyone I do business with "like good people" until proven otherwise. What do I have to do, bring donuts and coffee for everyone? I'm telling you it doesn't (nor should it) matter how you behave when you go to these places, it's lack of concern and competence that I've seen almost every time I've been to one. I'm not saying anyone is being malicious. I'm sure they think they are doing a great job. They just don't care about other people's stuff, and that's an attitude that's pervasive in our society so it's not a huge surprise.norcal_puller said:dude I garantee they will make sure you are dialed in, dont you guys understand that if you treat your service techs like good people they wont screw ya
How it works? I give you money and you do the freaking job right the first time because that's what you are paid to do, that's how it is supposed to work. :roll: I worked service jobs for YEARS and I ALWAYS did the job right regardless because that's what i was paid for. It wasn't my place nor my right not to care just because my perception was the customer deserved it (and perceptions are usually wrong, especially if it is some kid who hates his job and is lazy to begin with trying to decide if the customer "deserves" professional treatment or not).norcal_puller said:you will never get how the service industry works
go have the flat rate ase master tech change your oil at the dealer lol