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New STI in the Tri State Area (PA)

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Hey Everyone,

I've been checking out quite a few WRX forums and I believe I found my home here. I wanted to introduce myself to everyone, as I will probably have a ton of questions to ask. I'm pretty green to modding and have a ton of reading to do, but one step at a time. Let's see some pics!

2013 WRX STI Dark Grey Metallic




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Do any of you have any suggestions on a few good shops and tuners in the area? I want to begin researching and a few good leads would always help.

I've spoken with the owner of FAST in West Chester (PA). I know they are Cobb certified. They seemed solid and a buddy of mine who is a parts driver recommended them. The staff drove mostly Sub's and to me that was a good sign right off the bat.
Do any of you have any suggestions on a few good shops and tuners in the area? I want to begin researching and a few good leads would always help.

I've spoken with the owner of FAST in West Chester (PA). I know they are Cobb certified. They seemed solid and a buddy of mine who is a parts driver recommended them. The staff drove mostly Sub's and to me that was a good sign right off the bat.
CBRD Speedfactory is in York, PA. I've had them work on my Evo. Very professional, bend over backwards to help customers, and know their stuff. They are more active within the Evo community, but do work on Subarus as well.

Agile Automotive is in Fallston, MD. They were my go-to shop when I had my STI (~3 years). They are known for working on Subarus.

Those are the two I would recommend. You can check out the review threads to find some more along with user experiences/reviews/etc. :tup:
CBRD Speedfactory is in York, PA. I've had them work on my Evo. Very professional, bend over backwards to help customers, and know their stuff. They are more active within the Evo community, but do work on Subarus as well.

Agile Automotive is in Fallston, MD. They were my go-to shop when I had my STI (~3 years). They are known for working on Subarus.

Those are the two I would recommend. You can check out the review threads to find some more along with user experiences/reviews/etc. :tup:
Thanks, I will throw them on my list.
I can't personally vouch for CBRD, but my good friend takes his Evo there and swears by them. Says they do awesome work and customer service is awesome, they do specialize in Evo's but I'm pretty sure their Subaru work is right up there.

If you're willing to make the drive to Westminster here in MD, I would strongly suggest IAG Performance. They do amazing work and are incredibly friendly/helpful. It's only an hour drive for me but I know people drive several hours just to take their STI's in there. They pretty much have nothing but rave reviews across the forums if you want to search it. Congrats on the new car and welcome!
welcome! what type of work do you need done? bolt ons or tuning? if you want tuning, I HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend EFI in CT. Worth the drive and $. if you want to go south, I recommend IAG i have heard excellent things about them.

I met someone with an EVO in my neighborhood and he went to CBRD and said great things about them.
welcome! what type of work do you need done? bolt ons or tuning? if you want tuning, I HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend EFI in CT. Worth the drive and $. if you want to go south, I recommend IAG i have heard excellent things about them.

I met someone with an EVO in my neighborhood and he went to CBRD and said great things about them.
Shop & Tuner Inquiry:
I am looking for both actually and the more specialized in Subaru's the better. I'm doing some hardcore studying and would like to handle as much of the maintenance/modding as possible. I feel like modding my car and knowing the nitty gritty as to why and what I'm doing is part of the process. The reality of the situation is I am still a nub and I know some of mods would be a little out of my league, so when that comes into play I need a go to shop in the area.

As for tuning, I have a ton to learn, but I'm looking to develop a solid list of tuners as a precursor. I want to be fully ready once I have the knowledge to back it up.



Side Questions:

Question 1: At what mileage would you say would be a good point to get an Cobb A/P? I want to make sure that I put it in at a time where the car is broken in some and if the car were to be a lemon the problems could have already arisen (I have no intention of waiting out the power train warranty). Is there a hurdle like that that the 2013 STI needs to cross?

Note, I did break in the car by keeping it below 4k and varying the speeds yada yada yada.

Question 2: I'm looking at getting the Cobb A/P and a Perrin CB at the same time (If the wife gives me the green light) and later a Cobb downpipe. I know a tune is preferable, but I want to get a few more mods before I tune. Can i get away safely by using the A/P with an exhaust and a down pipe safely for a while?
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Welcome! I got my 2013 DGM STI Sedan in June. I live in delco. I heard good things about FAST and R/T Tuning in Lansdale.
Shop & Tuner Inquiry:
I am looking for both actually and the more specialized in Subaru's the better. I'm doing some hardcore studying and would like to handle as much of the maintenance/modding as possible. I feel like modding my car and knowing the nitty gritty as to why and what I'm doing is part of the process. The reality of the situation is I am still a nub and I know some of mods would be a little out of my league, so when that comes into play I need a go to shop in the area.

As for tuning, I have a ton to learn, but I'm looking to develop a solid list of tuners as a precursor. I want to be fully ready once I have the knowledge to back it up.



Side Questions:

Question 1: At what mileage would you say would be a good point to get an Cobb A/P? I want to make sure that I put it in at a time where the car is broken in some and if the car were to be a lemon the problems could have already arisen (I have no intention of waiting out the power train warranty). Is there a hurdle like that that the 2013 STI needs to cross?

Note, I did break in the car by keeping it below 4k and varying the speeds yada yada yada.

Question 2: I'm looking at getting the Cobb A/P and a Perrin CB at the same time (If the wife gives me the green light) and later a Cobb downpipe. I know a tune is preferable, but I want to get a few more mods before I tune. Can i get away safely by using the A/P with an exhaust and a down pipe safely for a while?
Answer 1: as soon as you finish the break in you are safe to start going nuts with mods. Some will say you can do before that but most stick with break in. We started with the exhaust at actually 200 miles. We then waited to do the major things until we were right near the 970 mark nt he shop car. No hurdles. Just watch your oil level and don't worry too much about all the creaks and rattles that you hear. It took me time to get used to it but its just the nature of this beast. Ofcourse you will hear the dreaded ring land stories. Proper maintenance and a good tune will prevent that.

Answer 2: yes you can get away safe with the AP with just the Downpipe and the exhaust. We are actually running the perrin cat-back and a turbo xs catted downpipe so a similar setup to your choice. Cobb OTS tunes are on the safe side. Pro tune is always preferred ofcourse though. Every car is lsightly different so tuning for each car is the best.
Answer 1: as soon as you finish the break in you are safe to start going nuts with mods. Some will say you can do before that but most stick with break in. We started with the exhaust at actually 200 miles. We then waited to do the major things until we were right near the 970 mark nt he shop car. No hurdles. Just watch your oil level and don't worry too much about all the creaks and rattles that you hear. It took me time to get used to it but its just the nature of this beast. Ofcourse you will hear the dreaded ring land stories. Proper maintenance and a good tune will prevent that.

Answer 2: yes you can get away safe with the AP with just the Downpipe and the exhaust. We are actually running the perrin cat-back and a turbo xs catted downpipe so a similar setup to your choice. Cobb OTS tunes are on the safe side. Pro tune is always preferred ofcourse though. Every car is lsightly different so tuning for each car is the best.
Thanks for the clarification that was what I was expecting to hear.
Thanks for the clarification that was what I was expecting to hear.
No problem. Hope I can pass on as I learn new things about this car each day.
Welcome! I got my 2013 DGM STI Sedan in June. I live in delco. I heard good things about FAST and R/T Tuning in Lansdale.

Congratz Pizzle! It's a nice color.

I've heard about FAST and R/T in Lansdale as well. Both are pretty close to me (Plymouth Meeting Area). Have you checked out R/T Tuning at all?

I did end up meeting Dave from FAST. I was throwing around some ball park prices with Dave from FAST and they seemed pretty inexpensive (we only talked parts not labor). Dave was pretty hell bent on saying he would beat anyone's prices around (online or shop). I was pretty impressed with all the Sub's he had out back. If my memory serves me right I think I saw 4 that were owned by both him and his guys and two that they were working on.
Shop & Tuner Inquiry:
I am looking for both actually and the more specialized in Subaru's the better. I'm doing some hardcore studying and would like to handle as much of the maintenance/modding as possible. I feel like modding my car and knowing the nitty gritty as to why and what I'm doing is part of the process. The reality of the situation is I am still a nub and I know some of mods would be a little out of my league, so when that comes into play I need a go to shop in the area.

As for tuning, I have a ton to learn, but I'm looking to develop a solid list of tuners as a precursor. I want to be fully ready once I have the knowledge to back it up.
go to a local subaru meet, meet some weekend warriors who wrench themselves and spend some time. i'm in central NJ and if you ever need a hand doing a mod, stop on by i'll help you out.

AZP in kenilworth NJ specializes in NJ and is one of the best in the tri state area.

Side Questions:

Question 1: At what mileage would you say would be a good point to get an Cobb A/P? I want to make sure that I put it in at a time where the car is broken in some and if the car were to be a lemon the problems could have already arisen (I have no intention of waiting out the power train warranty). Is there a hurdle like that that the 2013 STI needs to cross?

Note, I did break in the car by keeping it below 4k and varying the speeds yada yada yada.

Question 2: I'm looking at getting the Cobb A/P and a Perrin CB at the same time (If the wife gives me the green light) and later a Cobb downpipe. I know a tune is preferable, but I want to get a few more mods before I tune. Can i get away safely by using the A/P with an exhaust and a down pipe safely for a while?
1. you can go ahead and install the AP now. I would get used to driving the car and learning the car a bit more first though.

2. i would not recommend using an OTS (off the shelf) cobb map for long, the EJ engines can be finnicky and I know many people have problems either not hitting target boost or overboosting on the cobb tunes. i would install the Downpipe after you've collected all the other mods first
go to a local subaru meet, meet some weekend warriors who wrench themselves and spend some time. i'm in central NJ and if you ever need a hand doing a mod, stop on by i'll help you out.

AZP in kenilworth NJ specializes in NJ and is one of the best in the tri state area.
I plan to hit up a few meets. They sound like an excellent place to pick a few brains and get to know the car better.


1. you can go ahead and install the AP now. I would get used to driving the car and learning the car a bit more first though.
Yeah I plan to drive the car some and get used to the AP first. My wife wouldn't let me drop the 1,600 righ a

I know the AP brings alot tot he the car and I want to be able to adjust my own driving style before continuing with other mods.

2. i would not recommend using an OTS (off the shelf) cobb map for long, the EJ engines can be finicky and I know many people have problems either not hitting target boost or overboosting on the cobb tunes. i would install the Downpipe after you've collected all the other mods first
What specifically comes to your mind when you say finicky? I thought the engine was very solid. I know it requires tuning with modding, but that's expected.

Do you have any suggested maps (My STI is my DD as well)?

Why hold of on installing the downpipe? The restriction that the stock pipe has is painful.
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They are finicky when not tuned properly. As I was saying in my post every car is different and they all act differently to mods. The OTS maps really need to be fine tuned for each car because when you add more mods including a downpipe and intake you are bringing more air in and sending more air out. That brings the chance for boost creep with the OEM waste gate and such. This then because a mechanical problem and the tune cant really fix it. Not every car has it but its a possibility. Our had it on the OTS maps, we have yet to see it on the pro-tune maps, but the temps have not been as cold, so temperature is going to bring it back possibly. Then we have to fix it mechanically. You can under boost or over boost too. That's why Cobb has 3 map options normal, lwg and HWG. I say do all your mods just like we did. Including downpipe. Drop the OTS map on there and. Drive normal and do some data logs. If things look ok drive for a while and contact a tuner and dial everything in. If the data logs don't look good I would contact a tuner right away and start dialing it in. As long as you are going to at least use an OTS tune to cruise around there is no reason not to install the downpipe. Can't install with out the tune ofcourse. The OTS maps are a great starting point but dont get comfortable thinking there cant be an issue in the future.
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Sounds good, and sorry for the broken English. I'm at the office and have my boss breathing down my neck.
I'm sorry for mine as well too. I'm in a meeting and typing on my phone under the table.
im new to PA (2weeks) just moved to beaver county for school. is tristate near here? i need to find me some new subaru pals :)
im new to PA (2weeks) just moved to beaver county for school. is tristate near here? i need to find me some new subaru pals :)
I live near Plymouth Meeting/Norristown. The tri state area is considered the vicinity where Del, PA and NJ touch. Imagine drawing a circle around that area on the map and there you have it.
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