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So has anyone ever tried one of these things?, and if so, are they worth a damn?, and if they are good, which kind do you recommend??
 

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Plan on a bit of all types.

Personally, for as often as I'm completely lost, Rand-McNally is your friend. I can't imagine sitting there trying to deal with this little screen trying to tell me where the nearest QT is.

DVD monitor....maybe. Navigation...not unless it's free IMHO.
 

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Hey chawklit, when you say useful, do you mean as useful as a map, more useful then a map????, and also how easy was it to use, do you need a 6 year degree in aerospace engineering to use it ???
 

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I think I'll just transfer my worn Thomas Guide system that I share between my WRX and Civic right now...but if it gets to worn I'll upgrade too a laminated version :D

Unless by the time I get the STi I have a gf who can be my navvie :)
 

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Yeah, I think your all right, there doesn't seem like a need for a nav sys, and I should get this nonsense out of my head befor I end up blowing about $2,000 on something I don't need.......besides, imagine driving w/your gf and having a nav sys a still gettin lost :) ....how would you explaine that one. :-? :-?
 

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From a technological point of view they are pretty neat have come a long way. However, if you can't read a map not much less having a driver that can will help you.

The newer systems that have larger LCD displays with maps that overlay your position, as well as were you have been and your route highlighted in there own colors, can be helpful getting around new places or just exploring.

One of the nicer unit, in my opinion, is the Garmin GPSMAP 176 (color) [http://www.garmin.com/products/gpsmap176C/]. It features a nice large display and can have additional maps "uploaded." GPS City [http://www.gpscity.com/products/garmin/176C.html] has these units listed for about $534.

Or one could go to the extreme and install a Dash PC [http://freshmeat.net/projects/dashpc/?topic_id=99,113,116,122,123]. (Installed pictures @: http://www.dashpc.com/pictures.php.) However, this is a bit more expensive and requires a lot of installation. You can however get real-time traffic reports [http://www.dashpc.com/show_picture.php?id=119] or the weather [http://www.dashpc.com/show_picture.php?id=118] with the use of wireless LAN. An onboard computer system like Dash PC can also replace your radio/cd player. Using a sound card to output to your car's amp. you can play MP3, OGG, etc. and even a movie for your girlfriend.

But, you have a car that you love to drive so who cares if you take the road less traveled. What's the worse that could happen? You get a couple more hours of drive time in. (We all should be so lucky.) That is unless you have a girlfriend that doesn't enjoy going for a ride as much as you do.
 

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They are way more useful than a map. With a map you have to be looking for certain exits and such and fumble around with the thing while driving. But with the nav system, all i do is input the address (there are many other ways to tell it where you want to go) and a map comes on telling me where to go, and a nice lady talks to me thru the speakers in case i don't want to look at the screen (which is often). She's even nice enough to fade my music so she can be heard, then turn it back up again. I've heard of some bad nav systems true, but this one is userfriendly and even my mother could use it easily. But i wouldn't buy an aftermarket one, too much of a hassle and i don't care enough. i'd only have one if it was a dealeroption and i didn't have to install etc.
 

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I can't say that I am all that interested in doing a whole lot of modifications to the dash of any car let alone a new STi.

The upside to the Garmin (176C) unit is that it is complete self contained and can be moved from vehicle to vehicle. (And can be brought inside to "upload" new maps.) As it ships from GPS City it comes with a "Marine Mount" [http://www.gpscity.com/accessories/mounts/marinemount_176.html] so there is really only one thing to install, the mount.

There are also alternative mounting "brackets" available. The "Auto Mount Converter" [http://www.gpscity.com/accessories/mounts/automount_176.html] can be mounted to just about any surface with adhesive disk (temp and permanent) [http://www.gpscity.com/accessories/mounts/automount_disks.html]. There are also a large selection of Ram mounts [http://www.gpscity.com/accram/rapb200/rap279.html]. Which look really nice [picture: http://www.gpscity.com/graphics/rammounts/rapb/200/lrg/rap279mb.jpg]. So the installation of these units become pretty trivial.

In fact one of the initial reason I looked at the 176C is it could also be used as a hand-held. Alas the amount of battery drain per minute of use made them pretty much useless. What I ended up with is a GM210 [http://www.gpscity.com/products/gm/gm210usbpc.html] that I have connected to a laptop running Delorme maping software. I also use this set-up for network stumbling [http://www.netstumbler.com/]

[Just a quick side note: I am in no way associated with GPS City. :D I just happened onto their site when doing some research. The URL was easy to remember. They also have nice (large) images of most of their products. ]
 

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what would be the easiest way to get that factory japan gps into MY STi? and would a us subie dealer put it in for me (with a fee of coarse) ? since it is a subaru "factory" part.
but if not i know a few places that could install it.
So my main question would be.... how could i get my hands on it? :p
 

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As I posted in dream system, I will be getting Navigation system.
things to consider..
- Make sure it is DVD based - 1 disk - whole country...
- Do u travel a lot to new spots? then it will be well worth it..
 

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i was just looking at the different options today. for handhelds these look good
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00008KRGV/qid=1057640879/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0171339-6001505?v=glance&s=electronics
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000066TPN/qid=1057640978/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3_etk-electronics/104-0171339-6001505?v=glance&s=electronics&n=172282

i've been trying to find a good in dash, but they are pretty pricy
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/Pioneer/CDA/CarProducts/CarProductDetails/0,1429,92955,00.html
http://www.alpine-usa.com/html/D2_n_1_n_n.html
ack that didn't work, you'll need the apline nve-n852a and iva-c801.

the handhelds are nice because you can hide them in the glovebox or move it to another car. the in-dash/trunk systems are probably faster and more accurate, but the costs are outlandish.

i used the magellan in rental cars and they were pretty useful as long as you don't have to get on access roads. access roads made the system go nuts.
 
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