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Hello! Im looking to bu an Sti. Im patient, I can wait for them to sell for MSRP, these are some price quotes I recied today in email :)



The national allocation is as follows:
1,000 in May... we get 7
500 in June ....We get 3
300 each month there after....We will get 1 or 2
4,500 total for the 2004 model
This is the total annual supply for all dealerships across the country.

I have currently 4 available for sale. The car you found on the internet has been sold. I have 3 black ones and one silver one left in inventory.
Subaru is adding either a security system or a turbo gauge on some of them at the port.

I received your Internet direct purchase request for a
2004 WRX STi.
Your Internet Direct purchase price will be $3,000.00 over MSRP.
Our retail sales department will be holding firm at $6,000.00 over MSRP.
I hope that you will soon find out what over 1,400 other Carr Subaru Internet customers already know. This will be a very pleasant automobile purchase experience.
"No Stress, No Hassle, No Confrontations.
This is just one of many reasons we are the nation's leading online Subaru distributor.
Please note:
This price is absolutely not available thru our retail sales department.
With all due respect to our retail sales department team. This is an Internet direct price quote only. Please do not involve any of our retail sales personal or their managers. They can not offer this type of pricing due to retail overhead costs.
I will be your only dealership contact person start to finish, and I promise you will be pleased.

2004 STi standard Equipment:
2.5 liter intercooled high boost turbo engine, with 300 horsepower and 300 lb-ft of torque.
6 speed manual transmission, with full time all-wheel drive. Suretrac viscous limited slip front differential and mechanical limited slip rear differential.
Brembo braking system with 4 wheel disc bakes.
Front bumper corner spoilers, rear trunk spoilers, and STi ground effects.
High Intensity Discharge (HID) headlights. 17" BBS alloy wheels.
Leather wrapped Sti MOMO steering wheel, Power windows and locks, remote keyless entry, cruise control, air conditioning and dealer installed only sound system.
Curb weight 3263 lbs.
Available colors (White, Black, WR Blue, or Silver).
Subaru port added accessories:
Turbo gauge retail cost $297.00 invoice cost $194.00 or
Security system retail cost $230.00 invoice cost $150.00

Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price $31,545.00
Plus Subaru added accessory
Your Internet Direct Price $34,545.00
Plus the invoice cost of either accessory as noted above

Please contact me by e-mail at [email protected] or call my direct line at 503-672-3385.
The above price is an Internet Direct Sales price only!
Due to overhead cost differences and advertising regulations, this price is not available through Carr Subaru's retail Sales Department. I have a private office in a separate building located next to our Subaru Service Department, in Beaverton, Oregon. Here I can provide you with the type of personal service you expect.
That is how I earn your business!

Because I have the capability to do most of what is needed over the Internet, phone or fax, you will not have to spend much time at our dealership. Usually it takes about an hour to take a short test drive, sign the documents, and drive home in your new vehicle. Please remember I handle all of this myself.

There are two basic beliefs that make this work:
First, I very much enjoy what I do and I believe my customers should enjoy their buying experience as well; Second, I am committed to earning your trust and building a long term relationship. It is my hope that after reading this email you are now confident that I and Carr Subaru are a company you feel comfortable doing business with and that you have received a better value for your investment than anywhere else. My best source of advertising is from previous customers-so let me prove to you what they already know. You will enjoy this entire process. I will see to it!
I look forward to hearing from you soon. Thanks again for allowing me the opportunity to earn your business.

Sincerely yours

[email protected]
Christian C. Manz
Internet/Fleet Sales Manager
Carr Auto Group
11635 SW Canyon Rd.
Beaverton, Or. 97005
503-939-2564 cell
503-672-3385 direct
503-469-2474 fax
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Unfortunatly, I do not have a STi that I can sell you at MSRP, but if you want to go a little higher I would love to negotiate a price with you. Please let m know.

Thank you,
Brandon S. Wentworth
Internet Sales
Wentworth Chevrolet Subaru
107 SE Grand Avenue
Portland, OR 97214



Thanks for the inquiry. I have had many similar opportunities, but I sold the last two that we received for $4000 over MSRP. If you can wait for 6-12 months for the price to drop to MSRP, I would be happy to assist you then. Carr Subaru has one exactly like this and I invite you to inquire about purchasing one at MSRP from them. They have a $6000 markup. If you would like me to inquire about getting one for you I would be happy to do so. Give me a call if you have any questions that I can answer for you.


Aaron Weck
Internet Sales Manager
Lithia Subaru of Oregon City
1404 Main St.
Oregon City, Oregon
Direct Internet Office: (503) 723-2206
Dealership: (503) 656-0612
Toll Free: (866) 717-2511
Business Cellular: (503) 784-9397



Dear Todd,
Hi, this is Donald Williamson, Internet Manager at Capitol Auto Group.

For your consideration, I have a Black one with silver wheels in stock right now which I am including a price quote for here. We would love to sell one to you for MSRP on our next allocation which is about 90 days away. If that is something you would like to do we can order the exact color you want, and it would be for MSRP. However, we can only ORDER it in about 90 days when open allocation begins again. No dealers can order one any sooner than that. I have checked our available inventory against your request and found this vehicle for your consideration. I/we will be assisting you through the entire process...

In order to receive the Internet Department price and topnotch service it is important that you contact either Kimo or myself because the Internet Department runs a lower overhead than the retail sales department and they cannot honor our prices. Our offices are located in the main Chevrolet showroom next to the coffee pot! We look forward to hearing from you!

The Vehicle:



Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price: $30,995
To achieve maximum Traction and Performance, every Subaru integrates a unique system combining All-Wheel Drive with a symmetrically balanced horizontally opposed engine and an optimally tuned independent suspension. The result is superior Handling and Control in all-driving conditions STANDARD ON ALL SUBARU VEHICLES
Optional Equipment and Other Items


Total Suggested Retail Price $31,775

Market Adjustment $8,000

Total Suggested Retail Value $39,775

Your Special Capitol Auto Group Internet Price : $35,775!!!!
(after any applicable customer incentives)

In addition, being part of the Capitol Auto Group we have a unique vehicle locate department to find the exact make model and options you want. We have tremendous ability to find the right vehicle for you.

Because it is important that I know you have received this information, unless I hear from you by e-mail by tomorrow I will call you to follow up and answer any questions you may have at that time.

We look forward to meeting you soon!


Kimo Sunshine Pope Or Donald Williamson
Capitol Auto Group Internet Sales Managers
1-503-585-4141 (office)
1-503-931-2733 (cell Kimo)
1-503-990-3206 (cell Donald)
1-503-316-4215 (fax)

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Where are you located? If you look on this board there are several places where there are discussions of dealers very willing to sell at MSRP that are great to deal with. You may have to wait, but you won't be disappointed. One of the best writes on this board all of the time. Look around. There are good dealers out there. SFRinNJ

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check in colorado..... i just called all the dealers there and found atleast 4 that were for sale all at msrp... and if they dont have any just start calling around... to everywhere... if you sound like you know what your talking about when you ask abo the car (and tell them that you know of some that are msrp but just not the color you want) you will eventually find some at msrp... in 2 days of calling i found about 8 of them all over the country... though i probably called abo 10 different states to find those 8 cars... basically if you look hard enough you will find one (though shipping can be expensive, its not as expensive as paying over msrp.... for me it was $500)

good luck!

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sheeeet.... if your gonna spend $$$$ to ship a car, just spend it on a plane tix and drive it home!

i did the whole oregon state thing last week. everyone was over msrp. cheapest i found was $2k over msrp. then i found a dealer locally for msrp. yeah....

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You should call the dealership, and see if the retail salespeople are aware that their internet department is actually pushing people away from their showroom. There is something very unappealing to being so obviously marked like a fire hydrant.

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That's not how they actually do it. They all know that they will sell at the $3K over price. They just tell "Internet Guests" that they are selling them through the showroom at more than they tell you for the internet... Just a game.
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