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Announcement: Group Buy ends 6/1/10!

Time for another Litespeed group buy for a new product! We call it the Rear Chassis Bridge because that's what it does, it bridges the hole in the rear chassis behind the rear seats, and it functions a bit like a suspension bridge.

Everyone remembers the popular Car Labs X-Brace. Of course, it's a couple of years or so out of production, but everyone knows how well it worked in tightening the rear of any 02-07 Impreza bodied vehicle. There is considerable movement between the top of the rear chassis and the bottom which adds to the sloppiness at the rear of the car. Ideally, when the rear outside tire has taken its set as you turn, that would be it and the rear of the car would follow the front without any drama. This would describe a neutral feel, but with the unbraced Impreza rear, the top of the car wants to keep rolling over the bottom and tries to force the tire over onto its sidewall which of course decreases grip and feel. The X-Brace greatly minimized this problem. Similarly, the Litespeed Rear Chassis Brace allows for immediate weight transfer to the outside rear tire during a turn. We at Litespeed wanted to replicate the positive effects of bracing the rear chassis while minimizing three of the downsides of previously released products, namely, ease of install, weight and price.

When developing the Rear Chassis Bridge, it became clear that bracing only one part of the rear chassis was crucial to get that tight feel at the rear of the car, the space behind the rear seats. Bracing the rear strut towers or other areas of the trunk space just did not make much of a difference in the sedan body, as is evidenced by the numerous threads on Impreza forums describing how little rear strut bars do to help. It was only when we tied the top of the chassis to the bottom that the real magic happened. Fortunately, Subaru made it pretty easy to do this without having to use the tops of the strut towers thereby simplifying needed components and installation of the Litespeed kit.




The kit comes with all hardware needed including forged turnbuckles, custom made stainless steel slings (made in the USA), stainless load dispersing washers, grade 8/10.9 bolts and neoprene washers and vinyl sleeves that prevent metal to metal contact to avoid noise, rust or wearing. Each turnbuckle and sling arm is rated at 1200 lbs/545 kilos of pull so they won't fail. The washer system is designed to prevent overstressing the mounting points. There is a limited amount of slack that can be dialed in or out to fine tune the tension for a serious track car. The complete kit only weighs 3 lbs (compared to 10-11 for X-Brace and similar).

The back seat still fits without issue and all the stock rear seat area hardware can be utilized if desired. The tops of the arm assemblies are mounted to the holes at the upper part of the rear chassis frame near the strut tops, and the bottom is mounted to the innner threaded holes for the inner LATCH anchors as seen below. Also pictured is a close up with the rear seat installed and you can see the pass through can still be utilized for those that have them:




I'll save some testimonials from our testers for a subsequent post as we need to describe the group buy.

Regular price on the kit is $159.99. The Group Buy price is $149.99 but will drop to $129.99 if we can get 20+ orders. EDIT (4/1): no volume requirement - $129.99 for all starting now (No April Fool's :lol:)!

EDIT FOR PRICE DROP (4/11)

* I've decided to lower the price on the Rear Chassis Bridge as I'd like everyone to feel that they're getting value for their money on Litespeed products. So instead of $129.99 total, the price will be $114.99! The deposit of $65 will be the same and when I receive each batch of slings you will be notified via PayPal and an announcement in this thread to pay the remainder ($49.99) and your kit will be shipped. *


Price includes shipping! Because the stainless wire slings are custom handmade to order for me, a nonrefundable deposit of $65 will be required upfront and the order will be placed. As soon as I have them, you will be notified to pay the balance and the kit will be shipped out immediately upon receipt. Thanks.

PayPal deposit payment to [email protected]

Edit: I have a website up for installation instructions for the Litespeed Chassis Bridge:

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Let's see if my crappy Kosovo internet will let me post this time.

Keepin an eye on this...and I'll jump in if the numbers start to get up there. Are there better pictures somewhere? Also...how does this affect useability of the trunk as far as storing large items back there?
 

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Keepin an eye on this...and I'll jump in if the numbers start to get up there. Are there better pictures somewhere? Also...how does this affect useability of the trunk as far as storing large items back there?
I'll try to get bigger pics up.

The arms sit flush up against the back seat so no intrusion into the trunk.
 

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Re: Litespeed Group Buy: Rear Chassis Bridge - Testimonials

Testimonials

We had several of these out there for guys to install and test. Here are some sample quotes:

I was able to shave about 4 tenths off my lap time at VIR with the Suspension Bridge and that was before adjusting my other suspension settings to optimize the new stiffness at the rear. I expect I'll be able to get even better times soon. Definitely increases available grip. Works great!

Trey W., Virginia - 06 STI


Really increases the ability of the car to rotate on command for Auto-X. I love it...can I keep it?

John P., St. Louis, MO - 04 STI


Wow! It's like adding a swaybar to the top part of the car. Really ties things together. The car feels like it should've come this way from the factory.

Warren S., So. Cal - 03 WRX

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I'll defiantly get one if the numbers get to 20's. I gave up on finding an x-brace and this looks like a good alternative, if I wasn't broke atm I'd be on it right now.
 

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im very interested in this! BUT to be perfectly honest i think the price is a little high. A few summers ago i put together a zip line system for my lab so she could run around in the front yard while still being tied up...anyway, i used almost all of these materials, the coated steel cable with the crimps, the tie rods, etc.
i guarantee i could go to the hardware store and pick all this up for under 20$
 

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im very interested in this! BUT to be perfectly honest i think the price is a little high. A few summers ago i put together a zip line system for my lab so she could run around in the front yard while still being tied up...anyway, i used almost all of these materials, the coated steel cable with the crimps, the tie rods, etc.
i guarantee i could go to the hardware store and pick all this up for under 20$
I guarantee you could not replicate the quality of the hardware, particularly the wire slings, for $20 :). This isn't a dog run, give me a little R&D credit.
 

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This isn't a dog run, give me a little R&D credit.
My dog yanked one of those things out of the tree. :lol: He is now free to chase squirrels in doggie heaven now. :scurred:

I have a feeling everyone will say, "I'll buy as long as there are 20 people" because then no one will end up buying... unless we find 20 people to go all in at once.
 

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SWEET! As soon as I get my motor mount issue squared away all send you a deposit man. This looks to be a great alternative to the oh so sought after X-brace. I've been wanting one ever since I saw the test models at a meet. I have faith in you're R&D + the other comments on its functionality.

One question...How is even tension achieved/calibrated? Or is it more by feel/tune type thing. Thanks!
 

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My dog yanked one of those things out of the tree. :lol: He is now free to chase squirrels in doggie heaven now. :scurred:

I have a feeling everyone will say, "I'll buy as long as there are 20 people" because then no one will end up buying... unless we find 20 people to go all in at once.
I have a feeling anyone who wants one won't have to pay more than the volume discounted price :D. There is a MUCH larger target audience on NASIOC and the group buy starts over there in a few days. Don't be shy ;).

SWEET! As soon as I get my motor mount issue squared away all send you a deposit man. This looks to be a great alternative to the oh so sought after X-brace. I've been wanting one ever since I saw the test models at a meet. I have faith in you're R&D + the other comments on its functionality.

One question...How is even tension achieved/calibrated? Or is it more by feel/tune type thing. Thanks!
Thanks Tyler. You can actually feel the tension in each arm easily. Not hard to get it right, besides, these slings are strong and when you get them tight, they're tight.

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Damnit! I was about to start working on my hachi-roku again and this thread shows up. Now I feel like spending more money on my Impreza instead. /(>_<)\

Such a promising product. It has caught my attention. Subscribed to the thread.

One question, however. Does this product have any added effects on NVH ?
 

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Damnit! I was about to start working on my hachi-roku again and this thread shows up. Now I feel like spending more money on my Impreza instead. /(>_<)\

Such a promising product. It has caught my attention. Subscribed to the thread.

One question, however. Does this product have any added effects on NVH ?
Yes, all positive :). I have an aluminum trunklid on my STI that was kind of squeaky before installing the Chassis Bridge. Now those squeaks are all but gone, not to mention the creaks at the rear windshield have been eliminated as well.

Also, all metal to metal contacts are isolated by either neoprene washers at the mounting points or vinyl sleeving where the cables cross. This also prevents the paint scraping off the sheet metal at the mounting points to eliminate the chance of rust and wear.

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Yes, I'll be starting up the Group Buy on NASIOC this AM, The forum is closed for maintenance currently, but I'll get it going shortly.

Because things are going fairly slowly here, I've decided to lift the volume requirement as I don't want to penalize those who stepped up and already paid deposits by making them wait forever.

So anyone who wants a Rear Chassis Bridge can pay the $65 deposit now and the total will be $129.99 for all comers - I'm dropping the 20 minimum orders!

PayPal is [email protected]

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Interesting. Seems to give the same amount of rigidity but in a cheaper package compared to the competition. Any videos similar to the CarLabs video of this in action?
 

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Interesting. Seems to give the same amount of rigidity but in a cheaper package compared to the competition. Any videos similar to the CarLabs video of this in action?
I've seen that video but it what it shows is the chassis motion without the X-Brace screwed down so you can see the "before." The amount of movement is impressive without bracing. Any video after installation of either product would only "show" a lack of motion :).

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