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I was reading the SRT4 vs WRX battle in OT. Granted its over now, and I have nothing to comment on that. However a piece that NoLimits posted confused me and I thought someone might be able to clear it up. His post showed the amount of cars that have been claimed on by make and model. As follows:

The 2004 Lemon List

Thanks to the efforts of the Center for Auto Safety, we are able to provide you with the vehicle complaints on file with the National Highway for Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). Each year, thousands of Americans call their government to register complaints about their vehicles. The federal government collects this information but has never released it to the general public. The complaint index is based on a ratio of the number of complaints for each vehicle to the sales of that vehicle. For more information on the NHTSA consumer complaint database, click here.

MODEL COMPLAINT INDEX RATIO

Subaru Impreza
27,952

Infiniti I35
21,372

Audi A4
18,943

Ford Escape
14,441

Ford Focus
13,346

Acura RSX
11,657

Pontiac Aztek
11,537

Ford Excursion
10,277

Mitsubishi Eclipse
9,691

Jeep Liberty
9,450

Chevrolet Corvette
9,214

Chevrolet Blazer
7,938

Suzuki Grand Vitara
7,385

Volkswagen Passat
6,687

Honda Insight
6,496

Volkswagen Jetta
6,152

Acura TL
6,058

Suzuki Vitara
5,913

Land Rover Freelander
5,589

Audi A6
5,571

Dodge Caravan
5,561

Jeep Grand Cherokee
5,235

Honda S2000
5,162

GMC Yukon
5,094

Dodge Neon
5,045
He was trying to prove the reliable nature of subaru impreza was worse than the neon. My question lies in that number.

27,952 claims
32,209 2004 Imprezas sold according to Subaru News.

That means that about 87% of all 2004 Imprezas had serious problems that a call in was needed. Could also be 27.952%, but that is even a very high number. Am I reading this wrong?
 

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"Each year, thousands of Americans call their government to register complaints about their vehicles."

That's just complaints, not recalls or trips to the dealer necessarily. I've filed a complaint with my wife's Jeep, but there's no recall or anything. It's just voicing your opinion. There are things as minor as "My knee hits the key in the ignition when my seat is adjusted." That's no crap. I found that one under Jeeps. Take the numbers above with a grain of salt.
 

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I question the source of that list. I could not find anything that looked official from a source that I would consider unbiased. Simply claiming the numbers are objective does not make it so.

And here are the 'projected' numbers for 2006. Hmmm, the first car on the list is a Dodge ;). And there are a couple of Toyotas, so who knows what the list really means. And there are no Subarus.

MODEL COMPLAINT INDEX RATIO
Dodge Magnum 34,477
Ford GT 27,905
Suzuki Verona 26,081
Pontiac GTO 25,023
Land Rover LR3 19,939
Chrysler 300 18,405
Buick Terraza 17,190
Nissan Armada 16,146
Nissan Quest 16,063
Toyota Prius 15,938
Volkswagen Touareg 12,588
Nissan 350z 12,360
Chevrolet Corvette 12,016
Chrysler Pacifica 11,944
Chevrolet Equinox 11,764
Pontiac Montana SV6 11,673
Nissan Titan 10,835
Acura RL 10,305
Scion tC 10,000

Now, for ****s & giggles, I went to the "Center for Auto Safety" web site, which is the alleged source for these numbers, and asked it to show me all complaints for the 2006 Subaru Impreza. "No results". Hmm, you do the math ;). And there were zero for 2005 as well. And only two for 2004.

Yeah, the Impreza sucks ;).

Edit: I resubmitted the complaint search but for a Dodge Neon instead... and got twice as many complaints as the Impreza. Neener Neener Neener!
 

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Rootus said:
MODEL COMPLAINT INDEX RATIO
Dodge Magnum 34,477
Ford GT 27,905
Suzuki Verona 26,081
Pontiac GTO 25,023
Land Rover LR3 19,939
Chrysler 300 18,405
Buick Terraza 17,190
Nissan Armada 16,146
Nissan Quest 16,063
Toyota Prius 15,938
Volkswagen Touareg 12,588
Nissan 350z 12,360
Chevrolet Corvette 12,016
Chrysler Pacifica 11,944
Chevrolet Equinox 11,764
Pontiac Montana SV6 11,673
Nissan Titan 10,835
Acura RL 10,305
Scion tC 10,000
I wonder if that's a Probe?
 
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