i dont think dyno plots tell you AFR. but im still StockAF, so what do i know. =/i believe you were asking CAKEATER. But, there have been numerous dynos posted over the years. Isn't the stock 2800 rpm stumble associated with a lean spot?
please do share how those of you claiming 'lean values on the OEM tune' measured this. AFAIK, the AP does not have the ability to log the OEM map.
i dont think dyno plots tell you AFR. but im still StockAF, so what do i know. =/
Yes, it does. The accessport copies the existing map or if stock they call it the “Installed stock” map when you install the AP. This is what I refered to as Stage 0. I ran each stage to see and log the differences from Stage 0, Stage 1, then Stage 1.5, and finally Stage 2.5 (where 0.5 is the aftermarket intake added to that respective stage.)
I was under the impression that the 'stock' MAP on the accessPort is not actually the OEM map, but Cobbs attempt to recreate the stock map for these purposes.
checked the cobb site, it is simulated. this is not the same as the OEM map.It’s a straight copy of the installed map, but it resets the ECU so learning has to happen again, otherwise it’s the exact same stock map unless you install their Stage 1 map.
COBB Tuning - 2017 Subaru WRX STI Installed Stock Mode Maphttps://www.cobbtuning.com/maps/2017-subaru-wrx-sti-installed-stock-mode-map said:SIMULATED STOCK ... ECU to act like it is still stock.
checked the cobb site, it is simulated. this is not the same as the OEM map.It’s a straight copy of the installed map, but it resets the ECU so learning has to happen again, otherwise it’s the exact same stock map unless you install their Stage 1 map.
COBB Tuning - 2017 Subaru WRX STI Installed Stock Mode Maphttps://www.cobbtuning.com/maps/2017-subaru-wrx-sti-installed-stock-mode-map said:SIMULATED STOCK ... ECU to act like it is still stock.
checked the cobb site, it is simulated. this is not the same as the OEM map.It’s a straight copy of the installed map, but it resets the ECU so learning has to happen again, otherwise it’s the exact same stock map unless you install their Stage 1 map.
COBB Tuning - 2017 Subaru WRX STI Installed Stock Mode Maphttps://www.cobbtuning.com/maps/2017-subaru-wrx-sti-installed-stock-mode-map said:SIMULATED STOCK ... ECU to act like it is still stock.
checked the cobb site, it is simulated. this is not the same as the OEM map.
COBB Tuning - 2017 Subaru WRX STI Installed Stock Mode Map
possibly true.. except the cobb maps could be viewed as a 'competitor' to the OEM map and so any comparative data should be suspect. eg, "See how sucky the simulated OEM map is, you need to buy our stuff!"They only say simulated to cover themselves legally because they can’t truly have a stock map on their AP. If all values are stock, it runs like stock, then I consider this a valid copy to use for OEM logging purposes.
On my 15 I'm using ECUTEK, the values are in the logs.please do share how those of you claiming 'lean values on the OEM tune' measured this. AFAIK, the AP does not have the ability to log the OEM map.
possibly true.. except the cobb maps could be viewed as a 'competitor' to the OEM map and so any comparative data should be suspect. eg, "See how sucky the simulated OEM map is, you need to buy our stuff!"
but i digress.
Cause if you don't mod and blow your motor it will be covered . . . and the 60K warranty for people like me is only two years.Two STis , 10 years with over 160k Cobb AP protuned miles without any issues and the last 5 years +100 whp over stock on E85 stock turbo on my 2011 STi.
Is the AP worth it?.... I wouldn’t own an STi without it. . . .
I don’t understand why people say don’t mod until your warranty expires. If you mod and blow your motor, you will have to pay for it either way. Why wait 5 years till the warranty expires?
Cause if you don't mod and blow your motor it will be covered . . . and the 60K warranty for people like me is only two years.
But I agree, in my GD, Cobb Stage 2 was a transformation - even without a pro-tune - and it ran perfectly till I wore the engine out.