[danc]

Since the number of pre-orders could very well exceed production, how will they decide how many each dealership gets?

Is it possible that they will just assign a dealership X number of cars beforehand and ship them without pre-orders?

I'm just paranoid now that I found out just how amorphous my agreement with the dealer really is (if it can be pre-ordered I'm fine, if, like for the example of 500 with one going to the top 500 dealers happens, I'm screwed). Plus my dealer insists the car cannot be ordered at this time, while others insist it can. ???

This kinda reminds me of the old Integra Type R shenanigans. Anybody know how those were distributed exactly?

 

[D$]

Since this is mostly an "image car" for Subaru, the STi allocation will go to wherever Subaru feels the cars will generate the most hype. That doesn't bode well for someone in the Midwest like me. However, I doubt there will only be 500 made so I think every dealer (like, 600 or so) will get at least one.
I don't know if this is really like the ITR stuff, because there's just a lot more people who know about Honda/Accura.

 

[BuDDyLeE]

agreed. thats the main reason im leaving the domestic car scene for Subaru. no one really knows about them, and those that do keep it quiet, well... enough so that the honda croud doesnt catch the buzz.

 

[JJ]

Here is a sampling of what I have heard, none of it is confirmed and it's what has been floating around the net:

1) X% of Top WRX dealers get them.
2) First come, first serve no matter which dealer.

My preference:
First come, first serve

OR

Top WRX dealers get them, maybe like the top 10% out of 600 or something. Then it would be based on orders per dealer after that (IE dealers that got them would be guaranteed X amount, but if they had higher orders they would get more.) Current and previous owners of Subaru's get some sort of priority.

And of course, all users of imprezawrxsti.com get overriding priority. :grin:

Just as long as we get one, who cares?? :wink:

JJ

 

[alfredob1]

I could live with any of those options except the previous/current owner priority.

 

[danc]

As long as I can get one at MSRP. :smile:

By the way, I'm officially announcing right here and now: I'm not getting an EVO! What the hell was I thinking?

I'd rather have a Subie. I was blinded by the allure of the EVO, but the STi is the better driver car, the better everyday car, and the better trip car. The only thing the EVO can do better is through electronics and higher stock hp. The first can be fixed with being a better driver, the second through mods. :smile:

 

[chawklit]

I don't care as long as I get mine for 500 over dealer invoice and insurance doesn't murder me.

 

[danc]

"500 over dealer invoice"

Where!?!?

 

[RaX]

On 2002-02-19 14:47, danc wrote:
By the way, I'm officially announcing right here and now: I'm not getting an EVO! What the hell was I thinking?

I'd rather have a Subie. I was blinded by the allure of the EVO, but the STi is the better driver car, the better everyday car, and the better trip car. The only thing the EVO can do better is through electronics and higher stock hp. The first can be fixed with being a better driver, the second through mods. :smile:

I'm sorry to hear that danc.

 

[chawklit]

Oops, I meant 400 over invoice.
At Van Bortel Subaru btw (NYC).

 

[Bill]

Actually, Van Bortel's just outside Rochester, which is 300+ miles from NYC. Ask me how I know. :smile:
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They sell all their cars for $400 over invoice - which is why they are the biggest dealer in the country. My wife has bought 2 cars there so far.

AFA number of cars, no way there will only be 500. Way to few for SOA to recoupe the cost of getting the powertrain certified. But they prolly won't make much money on the cars at all anyway. It'll be more of an "image car" for the brand, just like the new GT40 will be for Ford.

 

[Bill]

Plus my dealer insists the car cannot be ordered at this time, while others insist it can. ???

How could any dealer order a car now, when SOA hasn't even admitted that the car will be coming here. Not saying it won't. They could start a waiting list...

 

[Sammy76]

I've been reading these forums for a while now, and I notice there is a lot of anxiety over the number of cars to be produced and the distribution of those cars. While it is understandable that everyone here wants to get the STi as soon as possible, I think a little bit of reason is in order.

Car makers limit production of vehicles for two reasons: to create a special edition version of a vehicle, or to create a flagship model. Special edition vehicles are designed to be "collected" or at least bought with a markup attributable only to the limited number in existance. These cars are never manufactured again, once sold. This isn't the category I see the STi falling into, as the STi is more than a paint job and trim level increase over the WRX.

Flagship vehicles, such as the STi is likely to be used as, are manufactured again and again, only not in the numbers that the regular fleet are. Vipers, prowlers, GTIs, miatas, NSX, etc are all permanent items on the respective manufacturer's lineup. Normally, the first year or two availability for these vehicles is a little tight, with the prices out of synch with reality. But eventually, everyone who wants one gets one, and then they have to be sold with the same laws of economics as any other vehicle. An excellent case study would be the Ford Contour SVT -- a great performance vehicle that, once past the initial sell-off to die hard enthusiasts, sat on lots and had to be _sold_ just like any other car.

So my point is that if you are willing to wait past the first shipment, you probably will get the car at a price close to it's real value. Remember, even the plain jane WRXs were selling high at first, now most dealers seem to have a few on the lots.

 

[dtramsey]

I'm not sure if this helps anyone or not, but my Subaru Rep was just here last week. They will produce about 1500 STi's for the U.S. There are about 600 Subaru dealers nationwide. Subsequently, most dealers will get 1 or 2 vehicles. Some big dealers may get a couple more. Our dealership sells about 25 cars per month and they say we will probably get two.

 

[thermite]

until SOA officially releases the car we arnt gonna have a for certain idea of how many. Look at the WRX. They said 10000 of them only. I bet theres close to 15 or 20K of them now. Im sure the STI will be the same.

Glen

 

[MKIVSupra]

SUBARU OF AMERICA, INC. RECORDS BEST YEAR IN HISTORY
"Impreza sales were bolstered by the successful launch of the rally-bred 2002 Impreza WRX, accounting for 18,060 unit sales since its March introduction."


This is from Subaru's web site, the press release section, and as of the end of 2001. By now they might have hit the 20k mark.

 

[alfredob1]

When are we giong to see:

"SUBARU announces the release of the much anticipated WRX STi."

 

[MKIVSupra]

Hopefully before the end of the year.

 

[alfredob1]

Hopefully indeed.