where did you see this? they flash their ecu and are now running 1+ seconds faster in the 1/4? Are you sure its not more then just a reflash? I've seen evos run 13.7-14.X a lot stock... and to drop that much with their engine being maxxed pretty much stock I really doubt it. I can understand running better timing and fuel maps and such... but you cant really up the boost much and whatnot so I just dont see how it'd get that much faster. I have a friend with a white evo8... he just got a boost controller, flash, and full TBE.... it surely still doesnt seem like a 12 second car yet. although he is a 18 y-old spoiled kid.maxwolfinger said:yeah, I am very interested in what kind of power can be made, considering the EVO guys are now running 12.6 quarter-miles with nothing but a reflash.