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Hey guys,
I have an 08 STI, and I'm interested in understanding what my options are for mods in Houston.

Cobb and Perrin both list Engine Logics. Do any of you have any experience with these guys?

What other shops should I consider? Who is the go-to tuner in town?

Thanks very much.
 

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The ONLY go to tuner in Houston is Enginelogics. I wouldn't let anybody else local near my car. EngineLogics has built up quite a reputation for customer service, just search them here or on TXIC (NASIOC). They fully built my car and have been very happy setting speed records and spanking exotics.
 

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I think you should use SGP Motorsports. They mainly deal in Nissans, but they tuned my WRX and have an AWD dyno. They are an authorized TurboXS dealer and plus....Perrin equipment sucks! Cobb is ok, but I (and others) have had issues with their Access Port reflashes. They tend to make your car run way to rich. But, hey its just my 2 cents.... Plus I drive 4 1/2 hrs to SGP just for my car.
 

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As far as my experiences go just check out enginelogics. They might be expensive as hell but they know what they are doing. SGP motorsports should stick with nissans b/c their tune on my Ride was not good whatsoever.

My tuner is pretty far and not very well known in texas. But I got tuned by Topspeed Motorsports in Atlanta, GA. If you wanted a pretty good tuner out of the state go to Topspeed, PDX Tuning, XX Tuning, those are a couple of tuners who I would trust for my subbie. No one in Texas will touch my car though.
 

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EL is the way to go in Houston...now, it's hit or miss on the other guys around Texas but if you have EL in your backyard, might as well go to them...

i've been running the AP Protuned on meth for 8 or 9 months now and have have had zero problems...

on EL dyno i made 292hp and 321tq...


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Engine Logics is the best in the houston area ....SGP are a rip off and tune cars to blow up. i talk to a guy who went through 4 motors.........
 

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Hey guys,
I have an 08 STI, and I'm interested in understanding what my options are for mods in Houston.

Cobb and Perrin both list Engine Logics. Do any of you have any experience with these guys?

What other shops should I consider? Who is the go-to tuner in town?

Thanks very much.
We have to Protuners in house. Doug Wilks, and Scott Siegel. Both are known in the Subaru market and many others. Its a little bit of a haul from Houston. You can make a mini vacation out of it. Give us a call if you'd like to set up an appointment. You can always get 10 people to get tuned and we will fly out to you.

Take care!

Tray M
866-94SPEED
 

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i would actually be down for a tune from topspeed. what would the cost be? road or dyno tune? anyone care to look into this a little more?
 

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well, I'm a topspeed tuned customer. I have gone to them twice from Texas. And I would love to get them over here. Saves me on gas and mileage on the Scoobie.
 

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Many have said this was a horrible tune. Especially for my mods:(

Numbers:
Dyno: Dyno Dynamics
Tuner: Brad @ Engine Logics
Wheel HP: 270
Wheel TQ: 276
Ambient Temp: ~90'
Elevation: ~50' Above sea level

Car Info: White STI
Year: 2006
Engine Management: Open Source
Turbo: Stock VF39
Intercooler: Perrin
Meth Kit: N/A
Injectors: Stock
Intake/Inlet: Injen Short Ram
Headers: Perrin Equal Length
Uppipe: Stock
Downpipe: Perrin catless
CBE: Custom 3'' catless to Magnaflow
Other Power Mods: Walbro FP


 

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well, i can't remember what i put down without the meth but i think it was closer to 282hp and 290ftlbs. i could be wrong so you "may" be on par with the numbers.

to be completely honest with you, i don't go to EL anymore. Chris is waaaaay too far up on his high horse to give 2 ****s about anything. Brad is a good tuner, don't get me wrong, but if you question one of them, you question both of them.

lets just say we had a falling out over a stupid transmission. they are quick to go on the defensive and they will twist your words around to make it appear that you were bad mouthing them. plus, their shop is damn near empty.

with the emergence of other shops in the Houston area that have much better PR and understanding of customer service, they have fallen in the ranks.

that being said, my last tune at EL was sometime in the summer of 2008.

i drove to Dallas to vistit the ever so popular Keith Fields at AWDTuning and i swear on everything that this guy is the **** in Texas. he gained 40hp and 10ftlbs WITH THE SAME EXACT MODS.

car drives like stock. even at 2200rpms in a high gear the car doesn't jerk and hesitate like the junk tune EL put on my car.

i can be in 6th gear doing 65mph and not even have to downshift to make a pass on the highway.

if you go to the other famous Subaru site and read AWDTuning's thread yuo will see with your own eyes what kind of tunes Kieth and put on these cars. he's amazing, simply put.

he's cheaper than EL and will perfect a road tune like no other tuner in Texas will.

lemme put it this way, Cobb set up a shop about 20 miles down from his shop and peiople STILL go to Kieth to get tuned. now THAT'S saying something.


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i just noticed that he tuned you for 12A/F all the weay through on stock injectors.

that's not like Brad to do something like that, unless you told him to. usually he likes to stay low to mid 11's.

12.0 A/F's is a bit questionable, especialy in 95 degree weather.
 

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i just noticed that he tuned you for 12A/F all the weay through on stock injectors.

that's not like Brad to do something like that, unless you told him to. usually he likes to stay low to mid 11's.

12.0 A/F's is a bit questionable, especialy in 95 degree weather.
i know. i showed kieth my charts and he said he was surprised my motor hasnt gone yet. i was just home on leave in july and installed my tial bov and when i took the intercooler pipe off i saw oil. it didnt pour out but its was enough to drip off my finger so i took my car to kieth to check it out. he read my ecu when i did a pull and he said the tune didnt look perfect but it wasnt horrible. on his road dyno software, he had me at 281/272 from EL's 270/276. he did say that their wideband at EL reads high but i dont know if thats true or not.
 

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i put down numbers like both of ya'll protunes from EL, with the cobb ots stage 2 map with a tbe and spt short ram, nothing else, it made 282whp 284wtq. just saying, protuned i could have made more just off those mods alone
 

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thats what im saying...stg 2's made more than me???? intake, headers, catless tbe, fuel pump, fmic, open source tune.....idk, just saying.
 

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i know. i showed kieth my charts and he said he was surprised my motor hasnt gone yet. i was just home on leave in july and installed my tial bov and when i took the intercooler pipe off i saw oil. it didnt pour out but its was enough to drip off my finger so i took my car to kieth to check it out. he read my ecu when i did a pull and he said the tune didnt look perfect but it wasnt horrible. on his road dyno software, he had me at 281/272 from EL's 270/276. he did say that their wideband at EL reads high but i dont know if thats true or not.
ok, so what you're trying to say is that keith already put a tune on your car after EL did the original tune !?!?

and he gained horsepower while keeping the car at a much safer level !?!?

if so, great job.
 

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ok, so what you're trying to say is that keith already put a tune on your car after EL did the original tune !?!?

and he gained horsepower while keeping the car at a much safer level !?!?

if so, great job.
no, he read the ecu and did a couple other checks as a diagnostic (since i saw the oil in the intercooler pipe). I know there will be a THIN coat, but it was a little more than a thin coat so I needed to know if my motor was gone or going since i'm about to spend $3k on a turbo, inlet, ebcs, wastegate/dump tube, coilovers, and a cold air intake. What good would those parts be if I had a bad motor ya know? After he ran his diagnostics, he "read" my power numbers for sh!ts and giggles. Those were the results of the same tune from EL.
 
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