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If Subaru once came up with the 22B (2.2L) -- a FIA non-compliant spec -- why not do the same again? Why not increase the displacement? Crash tests wouldn't be affected, so is it a problem with emissions regulations? Would the greater displacement automatically increase the emissions. It sort of sounds like a stupid question, but I'm not sure. Enlightenment?
 

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TiTaNiuM sAMuRai said:
If Subaru once came up with the 22B (2.2L) -- a FIA non-compliant spec -- why not do the same again? Why not increase the displacement? Crash tests wouldn't be affected, so is it a problem with emissions regulations? Would the greater displacement automatically increase the emissions. It sort of sounds like a stupid question, but I'm not sure. Enlightenment?
I don't see where Scooby would have a problem with emissions, it they saw enough of a market to invest the R&D bucks. Of course there's the rub, not that many people in the market for a professional class rally car.

Which is why I thought the 22b would be a good starting point for a Porsche competitor. There's a big nich (in the US anyway) for something that's 95 percent as good as a road car as a Porche, but costs 25 perent less to buy.
 

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TiTaNiuM sAMuRai said:
-- a FIA non-compliant spec --
Isn't this why right there? They do have the 2.5. Also I beleive current FIA regs state a 2.0 liter limit on cars that participate in the WRC.
 

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Question about power of A-spec WRX

That's my point. The 2.5L was quite a different machine, but the 2.2 WRX was quite similar to the WRC. If Subaru made the 2.2 before, why not now? The base model -- the WRX -- has a 2.0. Fine. Variants are done, though. The RA is a variant, the WRC is a variant, and the STi is a variant. The WRC can have only 2.0, but why not up the value for either the STi or the WRX as was done previously?
 

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According to the info I found each of the 426 22B's was hand built (I did not know this) which means it would be expensive. The 2.0 liter engine was bored out to 2.2 to give it a better torque curve. If Subaru did reintroduce the 2.2 that would add one more engine to their line (more cost).

Did you know the 22B was a Subaru's 40th anniversary car? I didn’t. Also some other info indicated 2003 being the 35th anniversary of Subaru in the US. We would be so lucky as to get a special edition car just for us.

I submit my ramblings as to why we have no more 22B's.

Here is another tidbit I was unaware of till recently. 22B is hex for 555 (WRC anyone).
 

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I don't think it would be emissions or anything like that, but more of a combination of R&D bucks, extra cost to a consumer market that think Subaru and imagines an outback wagon with Paul Hogan driving it (not the performance image to get my appetite wet), and also I couldn't imagine anyone wanting a Subaru faster than the STi...I mean sure the bigger the better right? Well, it would be such a small market it would be insane.

I like the idea, but more so of having something only a few others have...making me a little different or special from the norm or crowd..that's a big appeal to the STi for me.
 
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I read somewhere that the STi is a fully homologated vehicle. Based upon the rules of homologation.

http://www.rallycars.com/Cars/Homologation.html

Will Subaru sell the North American STi as a Group N, or a Group A homologation? Do world wide sales qty's. dictate, or do regional sales qty's. dictate?

Will there be more than one version of the STi? The Group N version (min. qty. 5000) and the Group A version (min. qty. 2500) ?

Summarizing, I have two questions for the rumor mill:
1) Will the STi be homologated?
2) If so, which version, or versions A and, or N?
 
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