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several of us are within 2weeks of taking ownership. what is the consensus of extended warranties?? (is there a consensus?) i saw murley talk about a $2500 7yr/100,000mi, $0 deductable warranty. i like everything about that except the first number. ;) i'd appreciate your opinions or a link to the thread that already discussed this issue.
 

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Good new from my dealer.

Doesn't sound too bad, expecially the $0 deductible. The only thing that would concern me is whether or not mods would void the extended warranty. If that's your intention, of course.
 

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One thing to keep in mind is that most extended warranty plans only come into effect when the manufacturer's warranty has expired. Since the STi will have a 3/36 B2B warrant and a 5/60 LPT warranty, a 7/100 mile warrenty may only be in effect for 2 years. I would consider the odds of repairs in excess of $2500 happening in that time span to be small. Especially when you get into the fine print about what the warranty actually covers.

The bottom line IMHO is that extended warranties are serious money makers for the people that sell them, and that happens for a reason. Statistically speaking, you'd be better off taking the money you'd spend on a warranty and putting it into a savings for 5 years (assuming your standard warranty will cover repairs for 5 years). If you're going to be financing the cost of the warranty your making the odds of breaking even on the purchase even worse.

The one intangible that an extended warranty buys you is peace of mind that you won't have to deal with any unexpected maintainence costs for a couple years longer. For some people this is well worth the money alone. Also, in my experience purchasing an extended warranty may come with other cool perks (better loaner car, discounted routine maintainence, etc.) that can make the deal more attractive if you take advantage of them.

Perhaps someone from a finance department can chime in with what kind of pricing and fine print we can expect on different options.
 

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That one I mentioned you could get from me for $2000. It's SOA's warranty, not an aftermarket. It's called Added Security. It's an actual "Extension" of the factory warranties to that length.
 

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i don't anticipate modding, at least not anything that would void the warranty. 300hp/300ftlb is more than double what i've been driving for 13 years, so i think i'll be plenty happy with the performance for a long time. :)
 

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i don't anticipate modding, at least not anything that would void the warranty. 300hp/300ftlb is more than double what i've been driving for 13 years, so i think i'll be plenty happy with the performance for a long time. :)

jason, i'll see what my dealer quotes for that warranty. if they can't give me that same price, i'll give you a shout.
 

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"It's called Added Security. It's an actual "Extension" of the factory warranties to that length."

so does it give you 5+7 = 12 years of manufacture warrenty @@


Can murley or someone define or briefly go over the rules of warrenty of what/how will the warrenty be voided @@

I'm like 4MLA1FN that the overall performance of STi is already beefy enough, so I plan to keep the warrenty. As I wouldn't go with Subaru's stereo option, so I'll be putting stereo system in myself, so I would like to know the rule of warrenty as I plan to keep it. Something I can reference to, so I woudln't have to take whatever the dealer says.


Peace
 

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No, you would have a full 7/100000 warranty.

The only things that void the warranty are things that you install. If you put a cold air intake on that it's not covered. Everything else will be fine UNLESS that intake causes a problem with something else. Then that wouldn't be covered either.

If I were me, I would leave the STi like it is!

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If you put a cold air intake on that it's not covered. Everything else will be fine UNLESS that intake causes a problem with something else. Then that wouldn't be covered either.
I thnk an example of that has been mentioned here before... Aftermarket filter on a cold air intake letting dust particles through that are big enough to cause turbo failure over time. I get a little paranoid on stuff like that. Even if the small mod you make doesn't cause a problem, the fact that it could have may be enough for the dealership to claim that the big problem you are having is not covered under your warrenty. What would it take for you to prove otherwise? I had an issue with my GMC dealer about a suspension problem that they won't touch because my car alarm wiring doesn't allow them to query the computer for information.

My preference is to take the money you would spend on extending the warrenty, and put it into a savings account. Then when you have a problem, claim it against your car insurance and use the money in your savings account to pay the deductable and the new increase in your premium (since your insurance company will raise your rates by insulting them with a claim). It's not a perfect solution by any means.
 

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I've really wondered about that claim though. If you compare the make up of a good filter vs. what the stock box has in it.....how is it any better/worse?

Does anyone actually have any proof of such a test showing aftermarket filters allow more/larger particles through? If that were the case, you'd think there would be some serious lawsuits.
 

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My preference is to take the money you would spend on extending the warrenty, and put it into a savings account.
while i agree with this, one problem however, is that most people finance the cost of the warranty; i.e. no one writes a check for the warranty up front because they don't have that amount of money sitting aside specifically for that purpose.
 

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Just for the heck of it, here at K&Ns claims from their website.

11. What is the micron rating and filtering efficiency of the K&N filter?

Air filters are not rated by micron size on an absolute basis. (See technical service bulletin 89-5R from the Filter Manufacturer's Council) The proper rating system for air filters is a testing procedure developed to measure the efficiency of the filtration media at varying micron sizes. We routinely subject a sample of our air filters to this testing procedure conducted by independent laboratories. The primary purpose of this testing is to ensure that our air filter designs meet or exceed automotive industry standards. These filtration tests are performed in accordance with the Society of Automotive Engineer's (SAE) J726 testing procedure. The content of the test dust used in accordance with the testing procedure follows:

Particle Size in Microns % by Volume (+/- 3%)
<5.5 13
5.5 to 11 11
11 to 22 13
22 to 44 19
44 to 88 28
88 to 176 16

Our testing has demonstrated that on average, K&N air filters have an overall efficiency rating of between 97 and 99%. With proper cleaning K&N air filters will protect your engine for the life of your vehicle.

I don't know how that compares to OEM filters, but that's pretty good over the range of particles sizes.
 

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I had an issue with my GMC dealer about a suspension problem that they won't touch because my car alarm wiring doesn't allow them to query the computer for information.
Why would they need to query the computer for info. about the suspension?

That's what you get for buying one of those fancy thingies where even the freakin' suspension is connected to the ECU. :wink:
 

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I got all the info from Subaru about different warranty packages that they offer through their "added security" packages. They say that you can purchase a extended warranty anytime during the factory warranty. I don't know if the price is different when new but I think I will wait and maybe purchase it later.
 

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I just went with the 5/60k, since the next one 6/80k was double the price. I guess once you get to the 80k miles mark there is another $250 surcharge or something for a turbo. I don't know if it's the same everywhere, it was a Subaru brochure the it was in, but my 5/60k was $900 and the 6/80k would have been about $1800. The top one, 7/100k is over $2200. I am not sure about being able to add it anytime. I doubt it would be a Subaru one. Mine is the Gold plus added security or something like that.
 
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