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maryey,
I know what you mean. My dealer only wanted 100 down. I was surprised, so I asked him why only 100. Apparently the STi isn't quite as popular in pittsburgh. But something still doesn't feel too right about it. I have been calling him once a week or two just to check in and see if he has heard anything new. (even though I probably would have heard it already since I live on this site). I am just hoping by hounding him that he knows that I am serious as hell.
Nevertheless, I was happy that I only need 100 to reserve it. It allows me to accumulate more of a down payment.
I know what you mean. My dealer only wanted 100 down. I was surprised, so I asked him why only 100. Apparently the STi isn't quite as popular in pittsburgh. But something still doesn't feel too right about it. I have been calling him once a week or two just to check in and see if he has heard anything new. (even though I probably would have heard it already since I live on this site). I am just hoping by hounding him that he knows that I am serious as hell.
Nevertheless, I was happy that I only need 100 to reserve it. It allows me to accumulate more of a down payment.
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Yeah I wouldn't be worried about getting one, just WHEN you will get one. Of course if you are #4 on a list at a dealership that only sold a couple WRX then maybe I would worry. I don't know how people can say the STi won't be limited. I have not heard anything more that 2 to 4k allotment for this year. People can compare it to WRX sales all they want, but the WRX was never intended to be "limited". Subaru was just HOPING to sell 10k. There was a lot bigger demand so they brought more over and sold them. I don't think the STi will be like that.
I don't think that it won't be limited to begin with, but a few things make me believe any one who wants one will get one.
1 - production will be constant and at this point, only people who have their eyes on something like the EVO or STi are ordering them. Once the car shows up on magazines and is shown blowing some big cars away, the general public might catch on. You have to remember what the general public's view of Subaru is, WRX or not.
2 - The rest of the world is not so much 'limited production'. As someone from elsewhere in the world said, the STi is just like a Camaro Z28 or SS over there....yes, not as many as the base model, but if you want one, you'll get one. I think production will increase.....but not to WRX levels.
1 - production will be constant and at this point, only people who have their eyes on something like the EVO or STi are ordering them. Once the car shows up on magazines and is shown blowing some big cars away, the general public might catch on. You have to remember what the general public's view of Subaru is, WRX or not.
2 - The rest of the world is not so much 'limited production'. As someone from elsewhere in the world said, the STi is just like a Camaro Z28 or SS over there....yes, not as many as the base model, but if you want one, you'll get one. I think production will increase.....but not to WRX levels.
i'm #2 at my dealership, and they sell plenty of cars, so i'm guessing i'll get one the first month... but lately i've been considering dropping my name back down to the bottom of the list and trying to buy myself a year or so to get my legacy paid down so maybe i can have both.
i think the best comparison as far as availabity is the s2000. it's produced in roughly the same numbers, it's about the same price, and i think americans' perception of honda is about in line with what they think of subaru (at least when you're trying to get them to shell out $30K+ for a car)... this is an enthusiast car and enthusiasts are picky, loyal, and indecisive. plenty of people might want it, but i doubt that many will actually put up the cash to drive one home.
i think the STi, like the s2000, will be easy to get a hold of after the initial blitz dies down. you can easily get an s2000 in most parts of the country, but the dealers still sell every one they get.
i think the best comparison as far as availabity is the s2000. it's produced in roughly the same numbers, it's about the same price, and i think americans' perception of honda is about in line with what they think of subaru (at least when you're trying to get them to shell out $30K+ for a car)... this is an enthusiast car and enthusiasts are picky, loyal, and indecisive. plenty of people might want it, but i doubt that many will actually put up the cash to drive one home.
i think the STi, like the s2000, will be easy to get a hold of after the initial blitz dies down. you can easily get an s2000 in most parts of the country, but the dealers still sell every one they get.
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IMHO the marketspace Subaru are selling the Sti into is very small. I think it will sell but there is a ton of competition above, below and direct both here now and coming, Evo, R32 Golf, Volvo S60R, RX8, 350z, Acura TSX, GTO plus the new Audi S4, M3 etc. I know the Sti is better than all of them but most people don't know that. Even in the UK Sti sales were relatively small compared to the regular WRX (this is partly due to insurance costs which are huge on the Sti. Very few under 25 year olds can afford the insurance. That could happen here if the Evo/Sti get a bad insurance reputation due to theft or accidents). I think pricing will be critical here. The R32 which has a superb interior will be around $25-27k. not as fast but great build quality. Having seen the Sti at the Chicago Autoshow it looks good but the interior is simply not luxurious enough for most people looking to spend 35-40k on a car. It is interesting to see the WRX sales have slowed dramatically in recent months. I can still see Subaru setting the Sti pricing at $29,995. Then they would really have the market to themselves.
IMHO the marketspace Subaru are selling the Sti into is very small. I think it will sell but there is a ton of competition above, below and direct both here now and coming, Evo, R32 Golf, Volvo S60R, RX8, 350z, Acura TSX, GTO plus the new Audi S4, M3 etc. I know the Sti is better than all of them but most people don't know that. Even in the UK Sti sales were relatively small compared to the regular WRX (this is partly due to insurance costs which are huge on the Sti. Very few under 25 year olds can afford the insurance. That could happen here if the Evo/Sti get a bad insurance reputation due to theft or accidents). I think pricing will be critical here. The R32 which has a superb interior will be around $25-27k. not as fast but great build quality. Having seen the Sti at the Chicago Autoshow it looks good but the interior is simply not luxurious enough for most people looking to spend 35-40k on a car. It is interesting to see the WRX sales have slowed dramatically in recent months. I can still see Subaru setting the Sti pricing at $29,995. Then they would really have the market to themselves.
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