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AOS Version 2 Announcement: http://www.iwsti.com/forums/general/185703-crawford-performance-announces-version-2-air-oil-separator.html

Summary: We understand there are a lot of unanswered questions regarding our Air/Oil Separator. Instead of trying to dig up the questions amongst different threads and different boards, we would like to consolidate the top 10 into one specific thread. Our plan is to answer each question in as much detail as possible.

Purpose of this thread: To compile the top 10 unanswered questions regarding our Air/Oil Separator asked by the IWSTI users.

Method: We will let this thread run free for two weeks to allow everyone a chance to submit their questions. After the two weeks are complete, we will post up the top 10 questions. Once we have our answers prepared for these questions, we will post them in this thread. We would like this thread to become a good informational source regarding the Crawford Air/Oil Separator.

How to submit your question: Please respond to this post with the ONE question you would like answered. We will be checking daily and tallying up the different questions. EVEN IF YOU'RE QUESTION WAS ASKED, POST IT AGAIN SO WE CAN GET AN ACCURATE COUNT.
Looking forward to hearing your questions!

Team Crawford

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Alright guys...Below are the top 10 questions that we will be answering in regards to our Air/Oil Separator. We are going to answer two questions a week (excluding New Years Week), starting on question 10, and finishing on question one. We will have all the questions answered by February 1st.

  1. What is inside the Air/Oil Separator?
  2. Why is it so expensive?
  3. What causes the yellow gunk?
  4. How do you keep the Air/Oil Separator from freezing in cold climates?
  5. Why is the Crawford Air/Oil Separator better than others on the market?
  6. Why go with a Crawford Air/Oil Separator, rather than a catch can?
  7. Is the Air/Oil Separator suitable for a stock/daily driver?
  8. What is the effect of the Air/Oil Separator on ignition timing?
  9. Are there any negative effects of not running the PCV?
  10. How does it fit the '02 with cruise control in the way?
 

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10. How does it fit the '02 with cruise control in the way? - On the 02 or most of the cars which don’t have the throttle by wire, the top mount AOS lives in the same location as the cruse control unit. Our current TMIC AOS for the 04 to 07 will fit on the 02 but you will need to remove the cruse control unit. This is not ideal for some owners but currently that is the answer.

9. Are there any negative effects of not running the PCV?- Here is a good read on a generic PCV system, they have a decent explanation about question #9. http://www.aa1car.com/library/pcv.htm Running the top line from the AOS to the vacuum source within the intake has the same effect on evacuating the blow as the PCV.

8. What is the effect of the Air/Oil Separator on ignition timing? – Our AOS has no immediate effect on ignition timing unless your motor is detonating from the blow by oil passing through the intake system. Once the AOS is installed and the blow by oil is no longer passing through the intake, your ECU will automatically advance the ignition timing because of the cleaner / more controlled burn in the combustion chamber. That said, the ECU will only advance the ignition to the parameters within the settings of the MAP.

7. Is the Air/Oil Separator suitable for a stock/daily driver?- Yes... You can pull the intercooler off your new car with only 500 miles on it and find oil inside of it. The purpose of the AOS is to remove this oil from the intake system to lessen the possibility of detonation which is the main cause of broken ring lands on the stock pistons. As you increase your HP, the amount of blow by passing through your breather system increases as well. This scenario also increases the need for our AOS.

6. Why go with a Crawford Air/Oil Separator, rather than a catch can? - With our AOS your oil will stay in the crankcase instead of outside the motor in a catch can. This will avoid the unpleasant surprise of finding out you do not have enough oil in your motor to properly supply the bearings. Because our motors are horizontally opposed, they are susceptible to pushing oil out the valve covers unlike an inline or V shaped motor. Our AOS pulls a vacuum on the crankcase creating a more efficient motor which equals more power from the same setup. A catch can cannot do this. Our customers say their motors run smoother after removing their catch can and installing our AOS.

A catch can needs to be emptied of its hazardous waste on a regular basis. Our AOS needs ZERO maintenance. A catch can emits the unpleasant smell of the crankcase fumes. Our AOS doesn't smell and is emissions friendly. Most catch can systems end up leaking or spewing oil in/on your engine bay while our AOS keeps everything clean and tidy.

5. Why is the Crawford Air/Oil Separator better than others on the market? - This is a tough question because it requires us to possibly shed negative light on our competitor's product, which is not a way we prefer to do business. Instead the answer will show how strongly we believe in our product.

Crawfords AOS was not originally designed for resale, but rather to take care of an issue we had with our race car on the race track. The final version of the original AOS was well over a year old before we started to sell the units to the general public. That decision was spurred on by our daily drivers which were getting oil in the intercoolers causing detonation. Crawfords is the only AOS with a money back guarantee, which shows how strongly we believe in this product. Crawfords AOS has the largest internal volume so it will separate more oil than any of the others on the market. Crawfords AOS also has the highest resale value which can be seen with a simple search on the boards.

4.How do you keep the Air/Oil Separator from freezing in cold climates? This is a great question and is currently relevant. Being located in Sunny Southern California, we did not know this would be an issue for some of our customers…Now we know. We have just finished our first test unit that will be heading to the frozen north for testing. It incorporates a water line from the engine to keep it at the same temperature as the engine. This should do the job and we will keep you posted on its progress. We have a production run of these AOS units currently in the system which should be ready for shipping in approximately two weeks.

3. What causes the yellow gunk? This is a mixture of oil and water. Usually when the water in the engine heats up it vaporizes and makes its way out the breather system. If it stays in vapor form it will make its way out the top of the AOS and into the intake. We have found from our cold weather customers that condensation is occurring inside our AOS as it is colder than the engine. This condensation is mixing with the oil in the AOS causing the yellow gunk. To fix this issue we have made a cold weather version that incorporates a heater inside the AOS to keep the AOS at the same temperature as the engine. With them being the same temperature, condensation will not occur leaving the water vapor to flow out the top of the AOS and into the intake system.

2. Why is it so expensive? Crawfords AOS kit costs more than most because it's a complete bolt on kit with all the engineering and testing out of the way. Also:
  • It has a money-back guarantee
  • It has the best resale value
  • Proudly made in America by Crawford
  • Largest internal "separating" volume on the market
  • Re-circulates the precious oil back into the crankcase so the motor will not seize from a lack of oil.
  • Pulls a vacuum on the crankcase creating better ring seal / power
  • Avoids detonation which leads to broken ring lands.
  • Now functions in sub zero weather
  • Aesthetically pleasing
  • Zero maintenance
1.What is inside the Air/Oil Separator? If you were to cut open a Crawford AOS, you would find that there are two different chambers within the AOS with the first chamber being a swirl pot. The function of a swirl pot is to swirl the incoming oil and air mixture. Due to centrifugal force against the inside wall, it removes the air from the oil so the air can be extracted through the top of the AOS. And due to gravity, the remaining oil will run down the walls of the swirl pot and collect in the bottom of the AOS. At this point the separated oil sitting in the bottom of the AOS is returned to the engine via a baffled chamber in the center of the block.

As the separated air moves up inside the AOS, it must enter a second chamber within the swirl pot before it can vent out the top of the AOS. The function of the secondary chamber is to remove any residual oil that might have made its way up the swirl pot. The secondary chamber also has a drain in the bottom to return the separated oil back to the engine. Unlike the other units on the market, the Crawford air oil separator has a hefty internal volume of .75 liters used to separate the air from the oil. This large internal volume is a must for separating the air from the oil coming out of the crankcase breathers on our horizontally opposed turbocharged engines.

Also found inside Crawford’s version 2 AOS is an internal heater. This heater equalizes the temperature inside the AOS and the engine to avoid condensation occurring within our AOS. This up grade makes sure the vaporized water leaving the motor makes its way through the AOS in vapor form instead of condensing back into a liquid inside the AOS. This is a must in cold weather and a bonus for any climate. No other AOS on the market employs this technology.

Crawford’s AOS is the largest “true” AOS as well as the only one with an internal heater on the market. This one unit has been designed to handle a stock to a fully built 750HP race motor.

Thanks for asking this group of questions!

Team Crawford
 

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Please limit your posts to questions only so as not to clutter this thread.

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Why route the oil separated by the a/o separator back into the crank case breather where it's just blown back out again (I realize that it will likely collect on the side of the tubing) as opposed to another location such as the drain tube under the turbo where it would remain hot and be less likely to condense due to moisture and turn into the yellow goop of doom?
 

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how does not running a PCV valve affect off boost conditions? how does this relate to VTA versus, recirculating the vent?
 

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If you guys are going to do us this way, i hope you elavorate on your answers quite a bit and not just yes and no answers. After all you GOT lots to explain about this product..:mad:
 

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Whats the recommended Plumbing for a DD that sees occasional spirited driving and Autocross with a HPDE thrown in once or twice a year?


Whats the cause of the Yellowish slime and how can it be avoided.?


Are there any negative affects of not running a PCV?


Can removing the PCV from the Venting system cause the oil in the engine to be contaminated sooner and requiring more frequent changes?
 

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Method: We will let this thread run free for two weeks to allow everyone a chance to submit their questions. After the two weeks are complete, we will post up the top 10 questions. Once we have our answers prepared for these questions, we will post them in this thread. We would like this thread to become a good informational source regarding the Crawford Air/Oil Separator.


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still no answer... really want to hear about the yellow stuff on link to nasioc
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Whats the main cause of the yellow gunk that builds up and how do i stop it from happening?

A link to some good pics of the yellow stuff. Crawford Air Oil Separator Problems "56k Beware" - NASIOC
This is what I'm interested in. I'm running a removed PCV with a catch can. That yellow gunk of oil, fuel, and moisture I think is better drained off into my oil bin to be recycled with my used oil versus going back into my crankcase. How do you justify sending that back to your motor for lubrication?
 
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