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Email I received. :tup:
Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament.
"If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country.
Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off".

"Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off," he said. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.

AMERICA and Canada..... ARE YOU LISTENING?


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IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.

However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the "politically correct" crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia.

However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.

This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle.

This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom. We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, Learn the language!

Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push but a fact because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, Because God is part of our culture.

We will accept your beliefs and will not question why, all we ask is that you accept ours and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.

If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.

We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means keep your culture but do not force it on others.

This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this
But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, "THE RIGHT TO LEAVE".

If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here.
You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.

Pretty easy really, when you think about it. I figure if we all keep passing this to our friends (and enemies) it will also, sooner or later get back to the complainers, lets all try, please.


PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE, PERHAPS WE CAN CREATE A GROUND SWELL AND SEND OUR
POLITICIANS THE MESSAGE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF US BELIEVE AS THE AUSSIES DO...
 

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wtf.....that wouldnt work in america at ALL!

america is a land full of hundreds of different cultures etc.. You cant just tell one of them to get out. I can see how australia would do this b/c australia is a country and has its own race, but america does not have its own race / culture. It is a blend of cultures.
 

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wtf.....that wouldnt work in america at ALL!

america is a land full of hundreds of different cultures etc.. You cant just tell one of them to get out. I can see how australia would do this b/c australia is a country and has its own race, but america does not have its own race / culture. It is a blend of cultures.

Actually, Australia is very similar to the US. "Australians" aren't the original people on that land either and there are people of all cultures and ethnicities living there.
 

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Than it shouldnt work like that either. I mean this is going to blow up in the austrailians faces IMO. I understand that they want everyone under one law, but unless they can prove that people are operating under another law and catch them in the act of disobeying austrailian gov. laws, they cant just kick them out.
 

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The reason our government wil not say the same thing is because our government will never admit that the "War on Terror" is religous war, which in deed it is.
 

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520hpSTi said:
Than it shouldnt work like that either. I mean this is going to blow up in the austrailians faces IMO. I understand that they want everyone under one law, but unless they can prove that people are operating under another law and catch them in the act of disobeying austrailian gov. laws, they cant just kick them out.
The government can do whatever the hell they want. Australia doesn't put up with the bull**** the US does for it's immigrants. You dont see signs written in multiple languages, you dont have government forms printed in many languages. The only place that do this is TOURIST area's. I am a strong believer of if you want to move to a country. You live how that country lives or get back to where you come from so you can live the way you think is better.
 

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Than it shouldnt work like that either. I mean this is going to blow up in the austrailians faces IMO. I understand that they want everyone under one law, but unless they can prove that people are operating under another law and catch them in the act of disobeying austrailian gov. laws, they cant just kick them out.
-ummm...., yeah they can, just like we can kick the mexicans(immigrants,whatever) out if we want to, which we probably will. I know they are completly different circumstances but, Austrailia can do what it wants to do. It is there country and they make the laws.
-And I do completely agree on what there stance is, either obey our laws or leave!
 

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The reason our government wil not say the same thing is because our government will never admit that the "War on Terror" is religous war, which in deed it is.

If we have to fight a religion that believes in our total destruction, then so be it.
 

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-ummm...., yeah they can, just like we can kick the mexicans(immigrants,whatever) out if we want to, which we probably will.

That's never going to happen in our lifetime. Even if certain states decide to do so, the ACLU will be filing suits left and right and the Supreme Court will gave and rule that such laws are unconstitutional.
 

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I love the Aussies. I wish I could enjoy a Victoria Bitter reading that excerpt.
The shift in America today and why I think we will never say something like this is because some certain people want to think America as a fruit salad now and not a melting pot. There always was different cultures but THEY WANTED to COME TOGETHER and create something good-America. Now, it's all individualism and it's destroying the foundation.
 

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Mate I am here to tell you that Oz is one big melting pot of cultures. the only difference is that we have 20 million people living here and not 300 million.
Cheers Aussie Dave

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wtf.....that wouldnt work in america at ALL!

america is a land full of hundreds of different cultures etc.. You cant just tell one of them to get out. I can see how australia would do this b/c australia is a country and has its own race, but america does not have its own race / culture. It is a blend of cultures.
 

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This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom. We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, Learn the language!
Lebanese = Arabic :D
 

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Hello brothers in arms.

Interesting times.

If I was king of the world I would just ban all religion.

But then what would all the people who are to stupid to understand science do!
 
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