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Nothing really important in this post but lot of people will like to share on this one since all the threads are beginning to be similar...

1st: It's really not something that would change my mind of buying or not the STi but look at the wheels of the STi, they look very good and look at the wheels of a Corvette 2002 Z06 (Unfortunatly I can't post any picture yet :|)... I had a Z06 2002 for 5 months and it really sucks when you wanted to wash properly the wheels and I found they are similar on the STi :)

2nd: The rear spoiler, I personnaly don't like

3rd: Manual water spray could have been auto when it reach a specific temperature!

Everything else all in all just make the STi a very nice winter (for people who buy it for winter) or a all-season car.

Since all the threads begin to look similar, let's write some variety :)

Sylvain
 

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I don't like the rear wing either. They could've made it look more like the WRX one, but put it on risers.

I'd want even more power (350 hp maybe??) and a 6-CD changer (need the extra power for the extra weight of an audio system haha)

Other than that, I really love the car...not much I'd change...it's more a question of what I'd add. :wink:
 

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The rear wing on the STi RULES, I don't know what you guys are talking about! :) anyway, here are the things I would want:

Semiautomatic gearbox. Considering the SMG option on the M3 is $2k, this should be an option for people who really want it and can afford it.

Two piece rotors, just like I have on my Cobra (there is a link with brake shots on my web page, http://olympiakos.com/auto/cobra/index.html )

If there isn't a turbo gauge (boost and temperature), they better provide one as an option

Option for Active handling system (eg., a computer that controls brake actuation and damping for each wheel, in combination with the DCCD in auto mode, with inputs such as lateral/longitudinal Gs, throttle/brake position, steering input, RPMs, etc)

Ability to set the DCCD to 100% rear mode. If that's not possible, I'd like to see a value more than 65%, say 80%. I believe this will improve handling at the open track on the dry - I am guessing with 35% of 300ft*lbs going up front there would be too much understeer accelerating wide-open-throttle out of corners.

Lastly a wish, since they haven't released the curb weight yet, I hope it's not a pig. Since the WRX is 3085lbs, and considering the larger engine and extra goodies, I can live with about 200 more lbs, but it it's over 3300lbs I will be disappointed because it will take away both from handling and power/weight ratio otherwise known as straight line performance.

I was thinking about a Z06 or an M3 with SMG for my commuter car, but Subaru threw a wrench into the equation :) :)
 

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Yeah i would've liked to see more than 65% to the rear also...80% sounds good. I wouldn't go beyond that though. Who knows? Maybe they'll do that for the 2nd generation STi
 

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Hmm..that's a tough one since I am way too happy about the car. Perhaps:
1. side-mounted turn indicators

2 I also would have liked to bias the rear power to more than 65%, but oh well.

3. BBS Spec C wheels, if not standard--we'll see.
 

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Not much at all. Maybe offer a different wing choice? I guess you could always swap a different one on at a later time.
 

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My only major gripe about the STi is the price tag - I don't think that it is unreasonable at low 30's US for what you are getting, but just wish it was lower.

I do have a concern though about the water spray though - in cold winter climates like where I live this could be a problem as the water in the container and/or lines would freeze if not properly flushed in fall. I wonder if the water can be replaced by winter windshield wash fluid - it should also serve as a good "coolant" for the intercooler, though it is more volatile than water and therefore would not "cool" as much as water would (i.e. a lower heat capacity), but at least it would not freeze. But then the washer fluid would absorb heat faster as it fows down through the intercooler than the water.

I guess you might have to worry about pumping the washer fluid across many different metals in the intercooler and engine compartment, possibly leading to corrosion and fouling moreso than with water. Any ideas on this? Anybody who did better in Thermodynamics/Heat Transfer than I did?
 

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1. FMIC instead of top mount...
2. Red and Yellow color options
Check out www.mitsubishi.com :lol:
Seriously though, a FMIC wouldn't do much in terms of performance by itself. It may give slight power boost, but turbo lag is increased b/c of the increased piping and it messes up with crash tests/durability issues with it getting punctured by a rock or something.



I do have a concern though about the water spray though - in cold winter climates like where I live this could be a problem as the water in the container and/or lines would freeze if not properly flushed in fall.
No worries in the winter time. Just don't fill the tank. You will find that you wont even need to use the water spray unless its smoking hot outside, but certainly not in the winter. If you only have a little bit of water in the tank and of course just a little in the lines remains, then when the existing water does freeze on you it will expand outward in the line and not outward on the line. (does that make sense...run length of tube, rather than width of tubing). I can't see it being a big problem.
 

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I was thinking about this the other day. Would a solution of rubbing (or other) alcohol and water be a good mix? It would be more volatile, therefore having more cooling effectiveness and have a lower freezing point.
 

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Ability to set the DCCD to 100% rear mode. If that's not possible, I'd like to see a value more than 65%, say 80%. I believe this will improve handling at the open track on the dry - I am guessing with 35% of 300ft*lbs going up front there would be too much understeer accelerating wide-open-throttle out of corners.
Kinda like a 2WD, 4WD transfer case lever? :) I have a feeling you'll enjoy the ability of not being able to set the DCCD to 100% in terms of handling. A little bit of help from the front end would have saved me from several costly incidents on the track (mostly body damage). Suspension changes can correct for understeer as well as tire choices (somewhat). I just can't wait to drive it... Guess that will be the time to launch a full set of conclusions.

But while were on the topic of changes, I too wonder why SOA didn't go with a front mounted intercooler? It would seem that a larger intercooler was possible if it were to be mounted up front, but I there again, being new to the Turbo world I'm not quite familiar enough with the concept of "lag" to make an informed judgement on the topic. From others posts it would seem that lag is increased when the amount of mounting pipe is increased. Lag time being the time it takes for the turbo to spool correct? So by creating a larger amount of volume available before the turbo (ala Intercooler piping) it takes the turbo longer, creating lag, to spool... Or this is the concept right? Is this why some companies choose to install a twin turbo system as to help pressuring the incoming air before reaching the larger of the two turbo's? Would it be impossible to employ a smiliar system on this vechicle? Again forgive me if I'm not making any sense, I'm by no means a turbo expert. Just thinking. 8)
 

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Seriously though, a FMIC wouldn't do much in terms of performance by itself. It may give slight power boost, but turbo lag is increased b/c of the increased piping and it messes up with crash tests/durability issues with it getting punctured by a rock or something.
wow, I didnt know that an FMIC increased turbo lag due to increased piping, thanx for that tid-bit of information :)
 

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Several things can create or reduce lag. Generally speaking, lag is the time between when you begin to accelerate and when you see positive manifold pressure. A larger turbo requires more time to spool up, so it will generally give you higher pressure at the expense of increased lag. Likewise, a smaller turbo will spool up faster, but will not give you the same pressure. Any plumbing between the turbo and the intake adds to lag. The less plumbing the air has to move through, the better. The shortest possible plumbing would be straight from the turbo to the intake. However, most people have realized that putting an intercooler in, while increasing the plumbing, lowers intake temperature and increases HP. It is a worthwhile tradeoff. In this game everything is a tradeoff. Will a FMIC give you lower intake temps? Possibly. Will it increase lag? Probably. Personally, I think Subaru made the right choice keeping it on the engine. Those people who want an FMIC will fit one anyways.

Just my $0.02.
 

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Turbo "coking" Issue???

How about that little air inlet thingy you see mounted to the roof of the WRC Impreza. Does that thing make much of a difference or is it used mainly to give the car a more aggresive look(reason why I like it).
 

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Sti utec compatibility????

It's a roof vent for the drivers in the cabin. No A/C + Saffari heat = very hot inside the car. The STi Spec C has it standard.
 

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for me, the car is perfect. i like everything about it. my only desire would have been a "racing yellow" color option. (but not for a premium price like the 1gen wrx.) oh also, twin (not twin tip) exhausts. i just think that looks cool; e.g. neon srt

regarding fmic. does the wrc car have a fmic?? while watching a rally this past year, i think i saw petter's hood open and i didn't see an intercooler on top. it was a quick shot so maybe i missed it.
 

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regarding fmic. does the wrc car have a fmic??
yes. WRC cars run at much higher boost levels and also more extreme conditons. The front of the STi WRC car is part FMIC and part radiator. The radiator is on the lower half of the car's front and the IC is on the upper half with the "STi" colored on it.
 

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Synthetics good enough for Porsche, BMW, Corvette breakin

okay. then i wanted an fmic in the sti. i'll never be a rally driver but i'd like to drive something as close to it as possible. :) at least we have the same hp, supposedly.
 
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