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Well guys, it looks like a turd. That black plastic completely ruins the whole car.

Yeah. Cars a major POS. VW annihilated them with the new golf r and gti in the looks department by far. Subaru isn’t making cars for the enthusiast who buys the sti anymore nor do they care about the rally history and heritage like we do. It’s all BS lies they use as marketing schematics. This car is directed at the liberal weirdos who buy the cross trek and outback not us. Subaru should of discontinued the car until it had a proper replacement or evolve the VA chassis further (improvements could of been made) rather than release this. Major fail….and only two colors?


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I don't disagree with the initial take on the black plastic wheel arch cladding being a very poor styling decision... but at the same time until I see it in person there isn't much discussion to be had.

I'd prefer to discuss some of the other take-aways.

Adaptive suspension in the GT trim is an interesting development. I imagine this will make it over to the STI. Not a fan of the piddly peak power increase. This has to be fuel economy driven... right? In order to maintain the same fuel economy figures with the outgoing 2L, they had to do this right? Because a 330 HP STI would be ..... underwhelming.

Disappointed in the seats. The recaros are still the fatso budget version.

FInally, improving chassis rigidity? I would love to know how they achieved 28% more torsional stiffness over the outgoing car given how rigid it already was.
 

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Before this I never would have imagined how bad a car could be ruined by wheel arches, just amazingly terrible. Kind of looks like the car has a lift kit. After all the hype honestly the 3hp gain is more funny than sad. Hate to see the giant screen, hoping somehow the sti will avoid that but very doubtful.
 

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Subaru is trying to move away from a tuner's car and that type of car culture. They want the outdoor adventuring and traveling correlation, not the tuner cult. I think one of the main reasons for plastic wheel arches is because of wheel fitments. You can't roll these "fenders" and plastic holds up better than paint when it is against gravel and rocks. Just a speculation by myself. If the WRX or STI doesn't make sales, Subaru will see it in their books and perhaps have a change. Vote with your money.
 

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Subaru is trying to move away from a tuner's car and that type of car culture. They want the outdoor adventuring and traveling correlation, not the tuner cult. I think one of the main reasons for plastic wheel arches is because of wheel fitments. You can't roll these "fenders" and plastic holds up better than paint when it is against gravel and rocks. Just a speculation by myself. If the WRX or STI doesn't make sales, Subaru will see it in their books and perhaps have a change. Vote with your money.

Hit the nail on the head. Subaru is done with the tuner culture for sure.
 

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Yeah. Cars a major POS. VW annihilated them with the new golf r and gti in the looks department by far. Subaru isn’t making cars for the enthusiast who buys the sti anymore nor do they care about the rally history and heritage like we do. It’s all BS lies they use as marketing schematics. This car is directed at the liberal weirdos who buy the cross trek and outback not us. Subaru should of discontinued the car until it had a proper replacement or evolve the VA chassis further (improvements could of been made) rather than release this. Major fail….and only two colors?


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Besides driving a crosstrek or an outback, please further define what a liberal weirdo is.
 

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This car is directed at the liberal weirdos who buy the cross trek and outback not us. Subaru should of discontinued the car until it had a proper replacement or evolve the VA chassis further (improvements could of been made) rather than release this. Major fail….and only two colors?
I don't think so. Theres the Impreza for that market. But I'd believe it if the new wrx is not in the next gen of racing games

To me, this screams death by bureaucracy and design by committee. Subarus complacent and wants to keep the fa24 for another 10 years, so they limp the first version in order to increase hp by 3 every new model year. Some exec wants to unify the factory line so they push the SPT(tm) to get rid of the manual. Another departments research shows all the hottest selling cars (SUVs) have cladding, so why not add it to the wrx? This is why products need to be designed by one team lead by one lead designer who has control over the whole project.

They could have dropped the FA24 into the VA chassis and made a great car. Instead plenty of people I know who were waiting for the new WRX/STI are getting the current gen, or getting the Z. At this point, I'm more optimistic that the Z will sell well and nissan will bring back the evo.
 

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I agree with most of the above - expect one thing: The WRX is not the STI. The hope is small, but not completely extinguished, though i have made it very clear that I never thought any significant power increase was in the works. But, I do believe this WRX will hurt the models sale. I believe most were sold to people who wanted STIs (even when they would not admit it, even arguing the WRX was a better car, or a better DD, neither of which I agree with) and could not afford one. Those sales are gone, and so will STI sales be if it were to follow suit.
 

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It does look better in darker grey/black colors because the plastic does not stand out as bad. Agree the wrx not trying to be an sti. I remember not liking the 2015 mustang when it first came out and I had at the time the last of the s197 in a 2014 gt/cs. I did buy an 18 gt pp1…lol.
 

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STI is now a subsidiary company owned by Subaru and cars built by them are registered (US at least) as an STI not as a Subaru; re: S209. So I am curious how they will handle the new STI model? Will it be built by STI or by Subaru and then be "STI tuned", with parts and suspension development by them or will there be another round of a "base" Subaru built STI and special editions like the RA and 209 built by STI.

I am planning on getting the new STI when it comes out.
 
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