[BuDDyLeE]

hi, new to the forum and the new STI, my god, that car is awesome. i love my 78' dodge lil red truck, but my god...

anyone know if you can get on a waiting list for the 2005 year model? anyone that would know about one in the dallas area? i know that cobb tuning is only 45 minutes from my house and the dealer they sell thru. so i could just get a WRX and get their RT stage($4800) and have 320hp...at the cost of an sti. so that would smoke an sti, but it still isnt an STI. so which is the better buy. im begining to think about the WRX cobb tuned subie but i WANT an STI. if dealers are only going to get 3 at the most then they'll all be taken by now b/c of Cobb Tuning being so close and the only shop in North America that sells the APS system for the impreza.....argh STI or WRX-RT????? HELP!?!?!?!!!!!

heres the link to the 320hp WRX upgrade
http://cobbtuning.com/ssi/osb/itemdetails.cfm?ID=95

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AHH!!! nevermind ill wait for the STi. i added up everything it would need to BE an STi or better. with the new WRX its like 40000 not installed. owch. ill wait.

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[TiTaNiuM sAMuRai]

... and you'll get a warranty and a fully road-legal car that has roughly the same fuel consumption as the WRX.

 

[JJ]

The tranny in the WRX WILL eventually brake with 320HP. I guarantee it... ;(

JJ

 

[BuDDyLeE]

then you drop the STi unit in.

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[chawklit]

I also live close to COBB Tuning and after consideration have decided to go with the STi b/c a warranty is good and so is reliability.

 

[jesse370]

lol yeah you can go drop a sti tranny right in.......After you drop over 7 grand buying it. Yeah a 320hp wrx will be faster in a straight line than a sti but the sti has better brakes and a lsd up front so lets see the 320hp wrx keep up in the twisties.

 

[TO60IN6]

And if Cobb and others are getting that much out of the straight WRX - I can't wait to see what their mods will do to the STi !!!

 

[jesse370]

Yes that is true but remember one thing about the sti. Parts are going to be VERY hard to come by and I bet SOA will be very quick to scream abuse and try to deny a claim when something in that pricey engine or gearbox does let go. I'm considering two paths one is pick up a used rex and mod the hell out of it or buy a sti.

 

[GEOsyncronous]

i thought about blowing my load on a wrx, just because i am impatient and my current car is uh... broken. In the end though, i have decided to wait for the STi, and limp around in my current ride until i have to push it. The STi is a very exciting car. I have been making comparisons to other cars, and they cannot compare. this car is everything that I want.

I'll take two please.

 

[alfredob1]

Homologation

That's the spirit. Just keep on holding out. We all know how good the WRX is so the STi will be that much better.

 

[Vanya]

I spoke to a relative of mine whose family owns & operates a Subaru dealership, and he said the STi would be announced / arriving sometime in the fall of this year, but he didn't have any details beyond that.

Oh well; it has to arrive in the U.S. SOMETIME ... :-?

 

[WRCFocus]

It's all in the pretige... the brand. I've dumped more money into my Focus than I paid for the car. No matter how fast it goes, how much better it handles, it still is just a Focus. Sure that's part of the fun and charm, but it's not really the same. Would you rather have a BMW 330ci modded out to be faster than a M3, or an M3? I'd go for the M3 myself.

On a side note, I am not very impressed with that Cobb Tuning kit. I don't know much about the tech specs on Subaru's 2.0L engine, but they're upgrade kit doesn't make mention of anything regarding the fuel system. Sure... the unichip has different fuel maps, but that doesn't do you much good if your fuel injectors are at 100% duty cycle. At least they give you a front mounted intercooler. I never understood why Subaru put the intercooler on top of the engine.

-WRCFocus

 

[stiwgn]

I never understood why Subaru put the intercooler on top of the engine

... Because of US crash requirements.... Supposedly Mitsubishi will have to move their FMIC as well

 

[stiwgn]

intercooler on top

i could just get a WRX and get their RT stage($4800) and have 320hp...

Yeah, I've seen that Cobb tuned WRX Wagon on E-bay and Autotrader for a month or so now. He's asking 25,800, which is a great price but I don't think anybody want's to buy it because you can basically throw the Factory warranty right out the window. It's really tempting... but like JJ said I know a bunch of people who've blown up the tranny putting that much power through it - that's why the STI come with a strengthened block and tranny... It's awfully tempting though, especially since it doesn't look like the wagon will make it over here!!

 

[SnowbordrWRX]

coupes

... Because of US crash requirements.... Supposedly Mitsubishi will have to move their FMIC as well

So if you move it to the front, it's no longer street-legal?

 

[91TB78]

So if you move it to the front, it's no longer street-legal?

Yup..just like if you remove the cats in the car or modify the vehicle in certain ways the car no longer becomes street legal. Its like a lot of exhausts on sportbikes and cars..they don't pass the DOT sound requirement and/or the smog requirement. Cops usually don't look into it though.

 

[RaX]

http://www.autoweek.com/search/sear...519&Search_Type=STD&Search_ID=597599&record=2

See Autoweek for spy pics of the Evo VIII being tested in the desert. You'll see the front mount intercooler. :wink:

 

[SnowbordrWRX]

Re: Rear Wing questions

91TB78, they mounted the intercooler on top so that it won't get damaged in a front-end collision, right? sorry if that sounds like a dumb question but I don't know a whole lot about cars...anyway, I guess with the intercooler out of commission, the engine would suffer due to the hot gases...correct?

 

[91TB78]

sounds like Chandler's 3rd nipple :lol:

SnowboardWRX,
No, the intercooler was mounted on top for several reasons. The biggest one was to maintain the cars front structural rigidity in case of a front accident. With all the front-mounted intercooler plumbing there's not a lot of room for the supports of the bumper. Secondly the intercooler is mounted on top by Subaru b/c a top-mounter IC is usually cheaper, has less IC plumbing making the air have less to travel, but the down-side to this is the IC stays warmer b/c it sits on the engine.

W/o an intercooler a turbo-charged car will more than likely detonate or suffer severely due to much higher gas temps flooding the engine combustion chamber..If either of these cars didn't have an IC in their present power config they wouldn't run for very long..say a few mins and then the engine goes KABOOM!!

 

[SnowbordrWRX]

Thanks man...I thought the engine wouldn't last long...i didn't know it wouldn't last THAT long! :lol: