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Old 09-19-19, 08:08 AM   #1
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I got a new alternator about a year ago. A little while after that, I noticed that the plastic connector on top of the alternator was melted. (I thought it had melted from the old alternator going bad and wasn't a current problem, so I didn't think much of it.)
Recently, it actually got hot enough that it burned the plastic. I took it to the dealership and they quoted me around $2000 to replace the alternator and the wire that was connected at that point.
I looked on Subarupartstore.com and found I could get those two things for less than $700.

Am I missing something here? The wire looks to be pretty straightforward. It isn't that much work to trade out the alternator. Where is $1300 in labor coming from?
Is there something else that needs to be replaced that I'm not getting? Only those two things were mentioned on the estimate.

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The report notes the driver was "alert and conscious" after the wreck. Too bad he wasn't before the impact.
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Old 09-19-19, 08:31 AM   #2
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Where is $1300 in labor coming from?
15$/hr min wage, health care for all, and endless wars.. somebodys got to pay for that.. that person is you.

oh yeah, at 1000$/mo for every man, woman, and child..
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This happened to me when I didn't have the nut tight on the alternator causing too much resistance which melted the plastic.

I just tightened the nut down, and went on my way. its been like that for 3 years now

but the wire that you're replacing isn't difficult to fix. The quote is because it takes 10 hours to do likely. 125 an hour for labor costs adds up.
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Old 09-20-19, 05:39 AM   #4
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What I don't see is how it would take 10 hours. It just goes to the fuse box and there's like 5 connections along the way.
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What I don't see is how it would take 10 hours. It just goes to the fuse box and there's like 5 connections along the way.
whether or not it takes 10 hours is irrelevant, they charge what the book says.. and i think he was using assumed hours and rate to communicate how cost is calculated.

they may also have padded that in case something else is discovered along the way. after all, it was just an 'estimate'.

give it a try.. if you get in over your head, at least youll know about what itll cost to get it straight.
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whether or not it takes 10 hours is irrelevant, they charge what the book says.. and i think he was using assumed hours and rate to communicate how cost is calculated.

they may also have padded that in case something else is discovered along the way. after all, it was just an 'estimate'.

give it a try.. if you get in over your head, at least youll know about what itll cost to get it straight.
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the book may say 10 hours, but a competent tech can get it done in less and pocket the other money.
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the book may say 10 hours, but a competent tech can get it done in less and pocket the other money.
I am very slow when it comes to repairs, but I bet even I could do this within 2 hours time.
I will post my time when I get back from vacation in a week.
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whether or not it takes 10 hours is irrelevant, they charge what the book says.. and i think he was using assumed hours and rate to communicate how cost is calculated.

they may also have padded that in case something else is discovered along the way. after all, it was just an 'estimate'.

give it a try.. if you get in over your head, at least youll know about what itll cost to get it straight.
Yes this^ This is how flat rate works. There may or may not be some additional time added to this repair for whatever reason.

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the book may say 10 hours, but a competent tech can get it done in less and pocket the other money.
When it comes to flat rate, you're paying for the experience and time that the technician has invested in order be to able to get that 10hr job done quickly. The better the tech, the faster your can get your car back without issues. BTW, the tech makes a very small amount of what the actual bill is. Alot of times, dealers techs only get paid on labor and the pay for them isnt the actual labor rate being charged to the customer. Just some food for thought

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I am very slow when it comes to repairs, but I bet even I could do this within 2 hours time.
I will post my time when I get back from vacation in a week.
Let us know how it goes, im curious myself to see if this is actually a 10hr job lol
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Back from vacation.

It took 3 hours. That is including having to find a replacement nut, since the old one was damaged by arcing, cleaning up the battery connections, and putting NoAlOx on some of the connections.

If I did this for a living, I imagine it would have taken 2 hours or less. That's about $600 an hour that the dealership wanted.

I don't know yet if it works since I decided while I had it apart to rewire the Hella horns and replace the grill. I hope it doesn't start melting again when I reconnect everything.

Edit: I don't know if this had anything to do with it, but I noticed the old alternator said that it was a "remanufactured" one.
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good to know

what part number did you order? I'd like to replace this on mine as well.
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