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#1 · (Edited)
Event: Road Dyno
Location: Somewhere in western Iowa on a flat road.
Ambient Temp: 90+ F
Elevation: 950+ ASL
Weather: Summer - hot
Track and Conditions: N/A
Tires: Dunlop Direzza Star Spec 235/45/17

Car: 2005 STi
Re: yamahaSHO - Bought another Subaru...
Tuner: jaz|TUNING (Me)
Dyno Info: Virtual Dyno
Transmission: Factory 6spd
Gear: 4th (me as the passenger)
Peak HP at RPM: 429 HP @ 5720 RPM
Peak Torque at RPM: 430 TQ @ 4481 RPM (Stock 34k mile clutch slipping on pull)
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: Do no know.
Target Boost: 23 PSI
Target AFR: 11.5 gas-referenced
Fuel: E85
Engine/Power Modifications:
KStech 73mm CAI, Perrin inlet, 20G/TD05/8cm, ETS TMIC, Invidia ELH, Grimmspeed UP w/ TiAL 38mm EWG, Cobb TBE, T1 top feed w/ID1000's (50 PSI base pressure), Walbro 400 E85 (hardwired), Aermotive AFPR, Crawford AOS, hybrid boost control (Grimmspeed EBCS/MBC) and Cobb APv2.

Suspension Modifications: KWv1's, replaced all bushings, Whiteline bumpsteer/roll center correction, Cobb sway bars w/ adjustable rear mount, and MSI trailing arms (1" correction).

Other Modifications: Debadged, front lip,...





Spool vs my buddies VF39 (3rd gear for both w/ all mods between the two the same other than the turbo)



It started pushing coolant last year, so I just started the rebuild with a brand new OEM short block with Manley A/B graded pistons.



 
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#2 · (Edited)
Re: 2005 STi - TD05/20G/8cm & EFR 6758 Dyno

I came across this thread and figured I'd add to it; I bolded the changes:


Event: Road Dyno
Location: Golden, Colorado
Ambient Temp: 75+ F
Elevation: 6,500+ ASL
Weather: Spring - Cool
Track and Conditions: N/A
Tires: Dunlop Direzza Star Spec 235/45/17

Car: 2005 STi
Re: yamahaSHO - Bought another Subaru...
Tuner: jaz|TUNING (Me)
Dyno Info: Virtual Dyno
Transmission: Factory 6spd
Gear: 4th
Peak HP at RPM: 427 HP @ 5573 RPM
Peak Torque at RPM: 443 TQ @ 4556 RPM
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: Do no know.
Target Boost: 25 PSI
Target AFR: 12:1 gas-referenced
Fuel: E85
Engine/Power Modifications:
KStech 73mm CAI, Perrin inlet, EFR 6758 w/ .85 AR, ETS TMIC, KillerB ELH, TurboSmart 2-port IWG actuator, Cobb TBE, ID1300's (43.5 PSI base pressure), Walbro 400 E85 (hardwired), Aermotive AFPR, Crawford AOS, Borg Warner supplied 3-port EBCS and Cobb APv3.

Suspension Modifications: KWv1's, replaced all bushings, Whiteline bumpsteer/roll center correction, Cobb sway bars w/ adjustable rear mount, and MSI trailing arms (1" correction).

Other Modifications: Debadged, front lip, 2-piece rotors...


I am still working on the boost control with the IWG in that I am going to tighten the actuator more, but this map is a lot less "ragged edge" that what I did on the 20G.







Very low reading dyno:






Same tune in a DYNOmite dyno. This was done at 5,5xx ft ASL and 90 degree temps. The turbo was losing steam up top.



 
#3 · (Edited)
Re: 2005 STi - TD05/20G/8cm & EFR 6758 Dyno

Figure I would just keep this updated with multiple setup to give people ideas on turbo upgrades when they feel like they need something more than stock. I'll try to go back through the years of files and if I have enough information left over, I'll post here.

Event: Road Dyno
Location: Omaha, NE
Ambient Temp: 75+ F
Elevation: 9xx ASL
Weather: Spring
Track and Conditions: N/A
Tires: Generic All-Seasons

Car: 2006 Forester XT
Tuner: jaz|TUNING (Me)
('06-'08) Matt's '06 FXT - Subaru Forester Owners Forum
Just a Wagon
- YouTube

Dyno Info: Virtual Dyno
Transmission: Factory 5spd
Gear: 3rd
Peak HP at RPM: 429 HP @ 6878 RPM
Peak Torque at RPM: 398 TQ @ 4766 RPM
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: Do no know.
Target Boost: 20 PSI
Target AFR: 11.5 gas-referenced
Fuel: E85
Engine/Power Modifications:
STOCK long block at 110k+ miles, KStech 73mm CAI, Perrin inlet, Blouch 20G XT w/10cm, OEM 2008+ STi TMIC, Invidia ELH, Cobb TBE, 3" TBE, Grimmspeed Uppipe with TiAL 38mm EWG, ID1000's (50 PSI base pressure), Walbro 450 E85 (hardwired), Aermotive AFPR, Crawford AOS, Grimmspeed 3-port EBCS + Grimmspeed MBC (hybrid boost control), and Cobb APv3.

Suspension Modifications: STOCK

Other Modifications:



9xx ft above sea level vs 6,xxx ft above sea level:



20G XT



Mustang Dyno - 8/19/2018




Exact same car, but with a VF48 @22 PSI, 9xx ft ASL (prior to ELH):



VF48


















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Event: Road Dyno
Location: Denver, CO
Ambient Temp: 85+ F
Elevation: 5,500+ft ASL
Weather: Summer
Track and Conditions: N/A
Tires: BF Goodrich sport comp 2 High performance summer

Car: 2012 WRX STi sedan
Tuner: jaz|TUNING (Me)
2012 STi, "Natasha"
Dyno Info: Virtual Dyno
Transmission: Factory 6 speed
Gear: 3rd or 4th?
Peak HP at RPM: 407 HP @ 5676 RPM
Peak Torque at RPM: 383 TQ @ 5526 RPM
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: Do not know.
Target Boost: 24 PSI (can't get it to make any more than that)
Target AFR: 11.5 gas-referenced
Fuel: E85
Engine/Power Modifications:
Built short block (Manley Pistons, Eagle rods, King bearings) , KStech 73mm CAI, Perrin inlet, Kinugawa td06sl2 60-1 8cm2 Mishimoto FMIC, CNT Catless downpipe, Magnaflow catback, Grimmspeed Uppipe with TiAL 44mm EWG, ID1300's (50 PSI base pressure), Walbro 450 E85 (hardwired), Turbosmart FPR, IAG AOS, Grimmspeed 3-port EBCS + Grimmspeed MBC (hybrid boost control), and Cobb APv3.

Suspension Modifications: STOCK

Other Modifications:



























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Event: Road Dyno
Location: Omaha, NE
Ambient Temp: Low 70's F
Elevation: 900+ft ASL
Weather: Spring
Track and Conditions: N/A
Tires: Michelin Pilot Super Sport

Car: 2013 WRX
Tuner: jaz|TUNING (Me)
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Dyno Info: Virtual Dyno
Transmission: Factory 5spd
Gear: 3rd
Peak HP at RPM: 299 HP @ 5812 RPM / 365 HP @ 5655 RPM
Peak Torque at RPM: 315 TQ @ 3848 RPM / 395 TQ @ 3684 RPM
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: Do no know.
Target Boost: 18 PSI / 21 PSI
Target AFR: 11:1 gas / 11.5:1 gas referenced E85
Fuel: 91 Octane / E85 (Flex Fuel tune)
Engine/Power Modifications:
STOCK long block w/ ARP head studs, Stock turbo, Grimmspeed 3-port EBCS + Grimmspeed MBC (hybrid boost control), Cobb DP, and Cobb APv3.

Suspension Modifications: STi Control arms w/ upgraded bushings, Koni Inserts, RCE Yellow springs, STi front brakes.




Mustang Dyno - 8/10/2018


























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Event: Road Dyno
Location: Omaha, NE
Ambient Temp: Low 70's F
Elevation: 900+ft ASL
Weather: Spring
Track and Conditions: N/A
Tires: Generic

Car: 2006 WRX Wagon
Tuner: jaz|TUNING (Me)
Dyno Info: Virtual Dyno
Transmission: Factory 5spd
Gear: 3rd
Peak HP at RPM: 358HP @ 5698 RPM
Peak Torque at RPM: 395 TQ @ 4231 RPM
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: Do no know.
Target Boost: 23 PSI
Target AFR: 11.5:1 gas referenced
Fuel: E85
Engine/Power Modifications:
STOCK long block w/ 100k + miles, KStech 73mm CAI, Perrin inlet, VF39, ETS TMIC, Invidia ELH, Grimmspeed UP w/ TiAL 38mm EWG, 3" TBE, ID1000's, Walbro 255 (hardwired), Crawford AOS, hybrid boost control (Grimmspeed EBCS/MBC) and Cobb APv3.

Suspension Modifications: KWv1








SAME CAR w/ the following changes: Blouch 2.5 XT-R 10cm, STi full drive train swap (flywheel to the wheels).

Transmission: 06 STi 6spd
Gear: 4th
Peak HP at RPM: 422 HP @ 6300 RPM
Peak Torque at RPM: 388 TQ @ 4454 RPM
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: Do no know.
Target Boost: 20 PSI
Target AFR: 11.5:1 gas referenced
Fuel: E85



On a Mustang Dyno:



VF39:
 
#4 · (Edited)
Re: 2005 STi - TD05/20G/8cm & EFR 6758 Dyno

Event: Road Dyno
Location: Denver, CO
Ambient Temp: 85+ F
Elevation: 5,500+ft ASL
Weather: Summer
Track and Conditions: N/A
Tires: BF Goodrich sport comp 2 High performance summer

Car: 2012 WRX STi sedan
Tuner: jaz|TUNING (Me)
2012 STi, "Natasha"
Dyno Info: Virtual Dyno
Transmission: Factory 6 speed
Gear: 4th
Peak HP at RPM: 407 HP @ 5676 RPM
Peak Torque at RPM: 383 TQ @ 5526 RPM
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: Do not know.
Target Boost: 24 PSI (can't get it to make any more than that)
Target AFR: 11.5 gas-referenced
Fuel: E85
Engine/Power Modifications:
Built short block (Manley Pistons, Eagle rods, King bearings) , KStech 73mm CAI, Perrin inlet, Kinugawa td06sl2 60-1 8cm2 Mishimoto FMIC, CNT Catless downpipe, Magnaflow catback, Grimmspeed Uppipe with TiAL 44mm EWG, ID1300's (50 PSI base pressure), Walbro 450 E85 (hardwired), Turbosmart FPR, IAG AOS, Grimmspeed 3-port EBCS + Grimmspeed MBC (hybrid boost control), and Cobb APv3.

Suspension Modifications: STOCK

Other Modifications:


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Update to this car with a new turbo and a different FMIC:




Event: Road Dyno
Location: Denver, CO
Ambient Temp: 85+ F
Elevation: 5,500+ft ASL
Weather: Spring
Track and Conditions: N/A
Tires: BF Goodrich sport comp 2 High performance summer

Car: 2012 WRX STi sedan
Tuner: jaz|TUNING (Me)
2012 STi, "Natasha"
Dyno Info: Virtual Dyno
Transmission: Factory 6 speed
Gear: 4th
Peak HP at RPM: 508 HP @ 5728 RPM
Peak Torque at RPM: 482 TQ @ 5307 RPM
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: Do not know.
Target Boost: 26 PSI
Target AFR: 12 gas-referenced
Fuel: E85
Engine/Power Modifications:
Built short block (Manley Pistons, Eagle rods, King bearings), KStech 73mm CAI, Perrin inlet, Borg Warner EFR 7163, ETS FMIC, CNT Catless downpipe, Magnaflow catback, Grimmspeed Uppipe with TiAL 44mm EWG, ID1300's (50 PSI base pressure), Walbro 450 E85 (hardwired), Turbosmart FPR, IAG AOS, Borg Warner supplied 3-port EBCS, and Cobb APv3.

Suspension Modifications: STOCK

Other Modifications:





3rd gear for I, S, and S# on E66:

 
#5 · (Edited)
Event: Jaz|Tuning Dyno Day
Location: Omaha, NE
Ambient Temp: 85+ F
Elevation: 1,100+ft ASL
Weather: Summer
Track and Conditions: N/A
Tires: Potenza RE-71R

Car: 2008 Subaru WRX Sedan
Tuner: jaz|tuning
Dyno Info: Mustang Dyno
Transmission: Factory 5speed w/ Moore performance blast plates, Torque Solutions solid lower transmission mount & pitch stop
Gear: 4th
Peak Hp 422 @ 6,800 RPM:
Peak Tq 381 @ 3,800 RPM:
Baseline hp/tq for stock on same dyno: Do not know
Target Boost: 23-24psi
Target AFR: 12:1 gas referenced
Fuel: E85 Flex Fuel
Engine / Power Modifications:
Rebuilt 255 hybrid engine, OEM Subaru EJ25 short block (OEM rings, pistons, rods, STI crank), Killer Bee oil pick-up tube & windage tray, 255 rebuilt heads (intake & exhaust valves Supertech black nitride valves), STI manifold swap w/ TGV deletes, Cobb 3" turbo inlet w/ Cobb SF intake & airbox, Blouch 20G-XT turbo w/ 10cm hot side, Grimmspeed Up-pipe w Tial 38mm external wastegate, hybrid boost control system w/ Cobb 3port EBCS & Grimmspeed manual BC, Invidia 3" turbo back catless exhaust, Gates timing kit w/ HD pulleys, ETS 4" top-mount intercooler, grimmspeed intercooler piping and couplings, Air pump delete, AC delete, Cobb Accessport V3

Fuel System: Cobb Flex Fuel sensor, AEM 320lph fuel pump, DW fuel pump hardwire kit, 1000cc injector dynamics injectors, IAG fuel rails, Percise racing fuel lines and fittings, Aeromotive FPR

Cooling: Mishimoto dual-core radiator, mishimoto 19 row oil cooler

Suspension: Fortune Auto 500 coilovers, cusco front strut tower brace

 
#6 ·
Event: Jaz|Tuning Dyno Day
Location: Omaha, NE
Ambient Temp: 85+ F
Elevation: 1,100+ft ASL
Weather: Summer
Track and Conditions: N/A
Tires: Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval Performance Summer

Car: 2002 Subaru WRX Sedan
Tuner: jaz|TUNING
Dyno Info: Mustang Dyno
Transmission: 2004 6 Speed
Gear: 4th
Peak HP at RPM: 262 HP @ 5650 RPM
Peak Torque at RPM: 285 TQ @ 4300 RPM
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: Do not know.
Target Boost: 24 PSI
Target AFR: 11.69
Fuel: E85
Engine/Power Modifications:
Stock 2.0L block, STi catless up-pipe, CNT catted downpipe, unknown 3” catback, VF39
Turbo, Turbosmart IWG75 with total 12psi spring, Grimmspeed EBCS, Grimmspeed MBC,
KSTech 73mm Intake, Perrin 2.4” Turbo Inlet, STi TMIC, Walbro 255 Fuel Pump, ID1000cc
Injectors, Mishimoto Aluminum Radiator, Torque Solutions Pitch Stop Mount, Competition
Clutch Stage 3 and Cobb APv3.

Suspension Modifications: K-Sport Pro Coilovers

Other Modifications: 2004 STi 6-Speed with Cobb Short Shifter, R160 Rear Differential with
3.90 Gears, Prosport Boost Gauge, Innovate LC-1 Wideband O2

 
#8 ·
did i read the 365hp one correct, mustang dyno, stock turbo limit mods 21psi??
that is perfect. and it went from 299hp at 18psi to 365 at 21 psi.
so you are thinking perhaps fuel timing wasn't adjusted correctly? tuner went in office to meet with owners to make sure he was getting it right? they met a long time a couple of times, i would think they would get it right but?
are you a tuner, should we talk direct?
 
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