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Old 10-08-19, 12:04 PM   #101
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Stock for stock the ZL1 1LE is in a totally different realm than anything available new under $100k (until C8 comes, at least... and maybe gt500)
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Completely off topic of the S209 now.. but I'm also impressed with the Mustang GT PP2's time of 2:53 while having a base price of ~$45k. It's probably the fastest car under $50k on the list. Granted it's wearing sticky, 305 wide Cup 2 tires.
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Tires are super critical. Does anyone know which GT600 they are using on the s209? Is it similar to the GT-R model?
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Since those lap times were posted earlier, just for comparison...

Car and Driver VIR Lap Times:

2015 STI: 3:10.5
2018 Type RA: 3:04.9 (Yokohama Advan Sport V105, 245/35R-19)
2016 Ford Focus RS: 3:03.9 (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2, 235/35ZR-19)
2018 Civic Type R: 3:03.9 (Continental SportContact 6, 245/30ZR-20)
2019 S209: ~2:59.9 - 3:00.0 (Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT 600A, 265/35R-19)

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Originally Posted by CarandDriver
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...totype-driven/
After only a handful of laps we were running about five seconds quicker than the Type RA we lapped last year and just a tenth or two behind our ATS-V's time (2:59.8).
https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...storical-data/
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Old 10-08-19, 09:04 PM   #105
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Since those lap times were posted earlier, just for comparison...

Car and Driver VIR Lap Times:

2015 STI: 3:10.5
2018 Type RA: 3:04.9 (Yokohama Advan Sport V105, 245/35R-19)
2016 Ford Focus RS: 3:03.9 (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2, 235/35ZR-19)
2018 Civic Type R: 3:03.9 (Continental SportContact 6, 245/30ZR-20)
2019 S209: ~2:59.9 - 3:00.0 (Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT 600A, 265/35R-19)



Lightning Lap Results 2006 to 2018: Every Car, Every Lap Time
Pretty fast. That car must be very well balanced.
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Pretty fast. That car must be very well balanced.
Definitely. A great STI, but obviously not a great performance bargain being a limited production vehicle.

It would be interesting to see lap times for the base STI & Type RA with just a wheel/tire swap from the S209. I'm betting a significant portion of the improved lap time comes from the stickier, 20mm wider tires and better brake pads.
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Definitely. A great STI, but obviously not a great performance bargain being a limited production vehicle.

It would be interesting to see lap times for the base STI & Type RA with just a wheel/tire swap from the S209. I'm betting a significant portion of the improved lap time comes from the stickier, 20mm wider tires and better brake pads.
Hmmm, I am not too sure about that...but it will be very interesting to see.
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Subaru of Japan posted a more comprehensive press release for the S209 today.

Subaru Corporation NewsRelease

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STI S209 Features and Specification
Tokyo, October 11, 2019 - Subaru Tecnica International (STI)*1, the wholly-owned motorsports subsidiary of Subaru Corporation, announced the product features and specification of STI S209 (finalized) to be sold in the U.S. market.

*1: Subaru Tecnica International (STI) (President: Yasuo Hiraoka; Based in Mitaka, Tokyo)

Features of STI S209

Suspension System and Wheels/Powertrain
・STI-tuned Bilstein front struts (inverted type) and coil springs
・STI-tuned Bilstein rear dampers and coil springs
・STI-designed BBS 19-inch×9.0J forged aluminum wheels
・Dunlop 265/35R19 Tires
・Brembo ventilated front disc brakes [drilled disc rotors & monobloc opposed-piston 6-pot calipers (silver-painted, with STI logo, STI performance pad)]
・Brembo ventilated rear disc brakes [drilled disc rotors & monobloc opposed-piston 2-pot calipers (silver-painted, with STI logo, STI performance pad)]
・STI-designed flexible tower brace, front
・STI-designed flexible draw stiffeners, front and rear seat back
・STI-designed pillow ball bush rear suspension links (lateral link front and rear)
・STI-designed front suspension supports
・Exhaust valve spring (stronger rate)
・Performance clutch
・High-flow fuel pump and injectors
・High-flow intake duct
・Induction box with conical air filter
・Intake duct pipe (larger diameter)
・High-flow duct boot
・Turbocharger with a larger turbine and compressor
・Performance muffler with lowered back pressure (featuring STI logo)
・Exclusive engine control unit (ECU)
・Performance shroud
・Intercooler water spray (with toggle switch)
・Motul 5W-40 Performance Oil
・Engine solenoid bracket (with serial number)
・Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC) system
・Active Torque Vectoring system
・STI short throw shifter

Controls/Instrument Panel/Warning Lights
・Luminescent instrument panel (with multi-information display and STI logo)
・Multifunctional display (with welcome screen featuring STI logo)
・Central instrument panel visor (leather-like wrapping and silver stitching)
・Ultrasuede®-wrapped steering wheel (with STI logo ornament, silver stitching)
・STI-designed push-type engine starter switch (red with STI logo)
・STI-designed leather-wrapped shift knob (black with STI logo) and shift boot (silver stitching)

Audio
・Six speakers (4 front + 2 rear)
・Starlink 7.0-inch multimedia audio system
・Black roof antenna (shark fin type)

Interior
・Recaro front seats (with silver stitching and accents, STI and S209 logo, heated seats, equipped with supplemental restraint system side airbags)
・Rear seats (with silver stitching and accents)
・Decorative instrument panel (red, with S209 logo)
・Side sill plates (with S209 logo)
・Door arm rests (silver stitching)
・Center console decorative panel (silver stitching)
・Serial number plate (console)
・Sub trunk (with tire repair kit)

Exterior
・Mesh-type front grill (cherry-red stripe with S209 ornament)
・STI underspoiler, front
・STI underspoiler, side
・STI underspoiler, rear quarter
・Side bumper bezels (steel mesh and chrome plating)
・Bumper side canards
・Wide fenders (front and rear)
・Front fender air outlet grill
・Side garnish with S209 logo
・Rear bumper (cherry-red stripe with air outlet grill)
・S209 rear ornament
・Dry carbon-fiber roof
・Black door mirrors
・Dry carbon-fiber rear spoiler (with S209 logo)

Main S209 Specifications (finalized)
Dimensions/Weight
Overall L/W/H: 181.9 × 72.4 × 58.1in.
Tire tread F/R: 60.8in. / 61.2in.
Road clearance: 4.9in.
Curb weight: 3485 lb.
Engine: Type EJ25 horizontally opposed four-cylinder
Max. output: 341 hp
Fuel tank: 15.9 gal
Fuel type: Unleaded premium gasoline
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And the S208's press release for comparison.

Subaru Corporation NewsRelease

Some differences.. some of which are just JDM STI differences.

Quote:
Main Features of S208

Suspension System and Wheels
STI-tuned Bilstein front struts (DampMatic® II, inverted type) and coil springs
・STI-tuned Bilstein rear dampers and coil springs
・STI-designed BBS 19-inch×8 1/2J forged aluminum wheels (silver)
・255/35R19 92Y tires (Dunlop Sport Maxx RT with special sound-absorbing sponge)
・STI-designed flexible tower brace, front
・STI-designed flexible draw stiffeners, front
・STI-designed front suspension supports
STI-designed rear suspension flexible support subframe (S209 has "upgraded" rear flexible draw stiffener & brace in the trunk)
・STI-designed pillow ball bush rear suspension links (lateral link front inside & rear inside)
・Brembo 18-inch bench-rated front disc brakes [drilled disc rotors & monobloc opposed-piston 6-pot calipers (silver-painted, with STI logo)]
・Brembo 18-inch ventilated rear disc brakes [drilled disc rotors & monobloc opposed-piston 2-pot calipers (silver-painted, with STI logo)]
・Exclusive high-output balanced engine (with serial number and STI Performance ornament) - There are no identical replacement parts available as this is a limited-production car.
・Exclusive engine control unit (ECU)
・Balanced clutch cover and flywheel
Twin scroll ball bearing turbocharger
・Intercooler water spray (with toggle switch)
・Performance muffler with lowered back pressure (featuring STI logo) teamed with exclusive rear exhaust pipe
・STI-designed strengthened silicon intake duct
・Performance shroud
Quick-ratio steering gearbox (11:1)
・Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC) system
・Active Torque Vectoring system
・STI-designed low-pressure-drop air cleaner element
・STI Performance Oil (Motul 5W-40)

Main S208 Specifications
■ Dimensions/Weight
Overall L/W/H (mm): 4,635×1,795×1,470
Tire tread F/R (mm): 1,535 / 1,550
Min. ground clearance (mm): 135 (5.3")
Dry weight (kg) (reference value): 1,510 (3329 lbs) - no fluids
Gross weight (kg) (reference value): 1,785 (lbs)
■ Engine
Type/category: EJ20 horizontally opposed four-cylinder 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve dual AVCS twin scroll turbo
Max. output (net) [kW(PS)/rpm]: 242 (329) / 7,200 rpm (324.5 hp)
Max. torque (net) [Nm (kgm)/rpm]: 432 (44.0) / 3,200-4,800 rpm (318.6 lb-ft)
Fuel tank capacity (liters): 60
Fuel type: Unleaded premium gasoline

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The kicker update on STi Japan website:



[Main equipment of S209]
* Pistons and connecting rods have been changed from forging at the development stage to casting.
This change is to improve reliability and durability, and has no effect on performance figures.
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