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Old 06-16-15, 03:12 PM   #21
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It's better to properly torque a bolt/nut while using the appropriate loctite rather then over-torque it because you feel like it will come loose. I reassembled my entire car using this method.
Can do Is it blue loctite that's recommended?
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Old 06-16-15, 03:44 PM   #22
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Yes, blue or medium strength should work fine there. I used blue on all the larger fasteners and purple (low strength) on the small ones. Just stay away from red and you should be ok.
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Yes, blue or medium strength should work fine there. I used blue on all the larger fasteners and purple (low strength) on the small ones. Just stay away from red and you should be ok.
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Yup initially didn't use loctite and it worked its way free in no time. Month tops. Used loctite and its been good for 5mths now.

I went with perrin

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Torque to spec. Locktite is good stuff, but you shouldn't need it for very many things.
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I need it everywhere! It does two things... prevents hardware from coming loose (something that happened a lot on my old FJ40) and protects threads from corrosion so they can be removed if need be. Although the latter is really a non-issue anymore since I no longer live near the ocean.
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Torque to spec. Locktite is good stuff, but you shouldn't need it for very many things.
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I need it everywhere! It does two things... prevents hardware from coming loose (something that happened a lot on my old FJ40) and protects threads from corrosion so they can be removed if need be. Although the latter is really a non-issue anymore since I no longer live near the ocean.
Don't know anything about an FJ40. Not even the mfg. I've never owned a car motorcycle, or boat - even salt water ones where Locktite was even a thought on more than a few locations, and they are normally specified by the mfg. Flywheel bolts come to mind. Seriously, if you need that much Locktite there is another problem. To start with your hardware isn't as tight as it should be and isn't working as it was designed to. There will not be enough pressure between the surfaces it is applied to to prevent movement, and guess what? That hardware will loosen. The movement will cause wear too. That much loose hardware is a symptom.

Fix the problem, not the symptom. Most of the fasteners in modern products including our cars are designed and used properly.

Use anti-seize it you want to insure easy removal of hardware that might actually seize; like caliper and turbo fasteners.
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are we really arguing about the best designed and manufactured pitch stop mount? make all of them the same color, shuffle them up and try to identify one of them.

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Don't know anything about an FJ40. Not even the mfg. I've never owned a car motorcycle, or boat - even salt water ones where Locktite was even a thought on more than a few locations, and they are normally specified by the mfg. Flywheel bolts come to mind. Seriously, if you need that much Locktite there is another problem. To start with your hardware isn't as tight as it should be and isn't working as it was designed to. There will not be enough pressure between the surfaces it is applied to to prevent movement, and guess what? That hardware will loosen. The movement will cause wear too. That much loose hardware is a symptom.

Fix the problem, not the symptom. Most of the fasteners in modern products including our cars are designed and used properly.

Use anti-seize it you want to insure easy removal of hardware that might actually seize; like caliper and turbo fasteners.
We'll have to agree to disagree. My assembly methods come from the aircraft industry where every fastener uses either loctite, locknuts, castlenuts, or safety wire. It's vibration that loosens components even if they are properly torqued. For me loctite is assurance against that. I also torque striped (another aircraft method) all critical bolts and nuts so I can tell from a quick glance if they have shifted at all. I did use anti sieze on the caliper bolts though. You do not want to use loctite on aluminum threads.

The FJ40 is an old jeep style Land Cruiser made by Toyota. It used to vibrate itself to pieces. I almost lost a driveshaft once as the bolts loosened from vibration. Vibration also loosened the pinion nut which killed the pinion bearings requiring a rebuild of the rear end. The former was properly torqued at first. After they loosened loctite was added. The latter was never touched. It just loosened up by itself.
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