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Old 11-05-11, 03:50 AM   #41
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Ok sweet I think I'm trying to hear something that really isn't there.. Lol
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Old 11-05-11, 04:18 AM   #42
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It happens lol
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Old 11-05-11, 04:24 AM   #43
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If your getting detonation and you can hear it, your probably screwed already. If you know any mechanics who have a.......cant remember the name lol, but its a camera scope that you can use to see inside your cylinders. If your knocking, you will probably have little divets on the pistons.

borescope ?
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Old 11-05-11, 05:49 AM   #44
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So a sign that the pistons are going is dimples on the piston? Pull spark plug, but boroscope in and look at the piston heads?
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Old 11-05-11, 08:33 AM   #45
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24psi on stock turbo? Jesus tap-dancing christ.
That's on E85 not pump gas. It's high but with the right fuel it works. You couldn't do it on pump has. It was also tuned by a highly reputable tuner who is all over this board.
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Old 11-05-11, 08:47 AM   #46
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24 psi is risky on any fuel, all E85 does is raise your detonation threshold, making it less likely to knock. Ive seen plenty of motors go on E85, safer yes, but in the end, its build the motor or keep rolling the dice.
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Old 11-05-11, 08:53 AM   #47
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Oh I agree, it's a lot for the stock turbo, and it's still going to blow up at some point. Also though, it's not necessarily boost levels that destroy things, it's horsepower and heat. I was only making 330/440 at that time. Bottom line is, upgrading a stock turbo or using e85 with the stock turbo is a gamble on the stock block.
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Old 11-05-11, 08:55 AM   #48
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I dont give a **** what you are, you obviously have zero experience on the subject and are reciting crap that you read. I speak from first hand experience only. PLease tell me your experience with cars over 400whp on stock block, and dont say this shop or that shop, I want personal experience. As I said before "engineer" when you let crap like this spill out of your mouth with such confidence, people actually believe it.
lol garbage...i dont need to prove anything like i said you already lost your credibility AND you contradicted yourself in a previous statement. if you were so smart you wouldnt be enlisted and taking stabs at my knowledge base.

people at AMR have THE MOST experience compared to 99% and dare i say 100% of people that roam this forum so im pretty sure when they make this claim PUBLICLY they know what they are talking about.

with my engineering and calibration experience combined with engine tuning experience and knowledge I can already tell you a properly tuned engine will NEVER blow up, NEVER break a ringland, and NEVER snap a rod given the appropriate conditions.

so get out of my face. you might want to give a "****" about what i am because obviously your pure ignorance and lack of tolerance got the best of you in this quote.

oh and dchee we've been over this before. i dont need to prove anything. when i put info out there its correct 98% of the time. so no need to back it up. if you doubt me then do the research. the other 2 percent contributes to true BUT possible lack of information or even an educated guess i have to put out there when the OP sucks...
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Well? Wheres the evidence? So you're saying all tuners suck at besides AMR?

You seem to be avoiding that question.
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That doesn't make sense. You're right 98% of the time but you don't have any instances where 100% of the greatly tuned cars don't blow up. We're not arguing that a great tune prevents this, buy your statement is completely falsified. There is absolutely no evidence that a vehicle absolutely will not blow up, drive like stock, and obtain the same gas mileage with a larger turbo, bigger injectors, and supporting mods with a great tune. Sure there is a chance it will last forever, but it's not guaranteed that it will happen. As far as gas mileage goes come on man you said it your self, you are an engineer, so you should know that the larger turbos are going to using more air and more fuel than the smaller turbos at the same rpm.

Please provide evidence that 510whp will drive like stock, get the same gas mileage, and not blow up with a great tune. A great tune helps but only to a certain extent. If you feel that you are that smart and you do not need to provide evidence then I look forward to your build journal highlighting the 510whp on a stock block.
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