30k Service?!

***JPWEraser*** · 11-27-2006, 01:21 PM

Man, I just scheduled one of these and was quoted $380 without the plug replacement(just had new plugs put in it recently). This seems high to me. I do my own oil changes and tire rotations so I could have them leave that part off I guess. Is this normal?

francoej · 12-20-2006, 12:55 PM

My dealer (in CA) charges $525 (plugs not included; I think they're good until 60K). I told them not to do the oil/tire rotation/air filter and got it dropped to $400.

fullerton · 12-20-2006, 01:03 PM

i think you, personally, can do most of the stuff in that service.

what exactly are they going to do for you?

lackskill · 12-20-2006, 01:20 PM

this is the 30k service description per Subaru:

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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="bg_f4 pad_5" valign="top">Inspect</td> <td class="bg_f4 pad_5" valign="middle">Drive belt(s) [Except camshaft]</td> </tr> <tr> Inspect <td class="pad_5" valign="middle">Camshaft drive belt</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bg_f4 pad_5" valign="top">Replace</td> <td class="bg_f4 pad_5" valign="middle">Engine oil</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="pad_5" valign="top">Replace</td> <td class="pad_5" valign="middle">Engine oil filter</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bg_f4 pad_5" valign="top">Perform</td> <td class="bg_f4 pad_5" valign="middle">Replace engine coolant and inspect cooling system, hoses and connections</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="pad_5" valign="top">Recommended Performance</td> <td class="pad_5" valign="middle">Replace fuel filter and inspect fuel system, hoses and connections</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bg_f4 pad_5" valign="top">Replace</td> <td class="bg_f4 pad_5" valign="middle">Air cleaner element</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="pad_5" valign="top">Inspect</td> <td class="pad_5" valign="middle">Transmission/Differential (Front & Rear) lubricants (Gear oil)</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bg_f4 pad_5" valign="top">Inspect</td> <td class="bg_f4 pad_5" valign="middle">Automatic transmission fluid</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="pad_5" valign="top">Replace</td> <td class="pad_5" valign="middle">Brake fluid</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bg_f4 pad_5" valign="top">Inspect</td> <td class="bg_f4 pad_5" valign="middle">Disc brake pads and discs, front and rear axle boots and axle shaft joint portions</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="pad_5" valign="top">Inspect</td> <td class="pad_5" valign="middle">Brake linings and drums</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bg_f4 pad_5" valign="top">Perform</td> <td class="bg_f4 pad_5" valign="middle">Inspect brake lines and check operation of parking and service brake system</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="pad_5" valign="top">Inspect</td> <td class="pad_5" valign="middle">Clutch operation</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="bg_f4 pad_5" valign="top">Inspect</td> <td class="bg_f4 pad_5" valign="middle">Steering and suspension</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="pad_5" valign="top">Perform</td> <td class="pad_5" valign="middle">Rotate and Inspect Tires</td></tr></tbody></table>

fullerton · 12-20-2006, 01:37 PM

Easily done by you:
Replace Engine oil
Replace Engine oil filter
Perform Replace engine coolant and inspect cooling system, hoses and connections ( I am assuming, I have yet to do this.)
Replace fuel filter and inspect fuel system, hoses and connections
Replace Air cleaner element
Replace Transmission/Differential (Front & Rear) lubricants (Gear oil)
Replace Brake fluid
Inspect Disc brake pads and discs, front and rear axle boots and axle shaft joint portions
Inspect Brake linings and drums
Inspect brake lines and check operation of parking and service brake system
Inspect Clutch operation
Inspect Steering and suspension
Rotate and Inspect Tires

jsmithjr732 · 12-20-2006, 01:44 PM

I loved doing my 30K on my ol' 02 WRX. Really brings you closer to the vehicle. Learned a few things while I was at it too.

Do it yourself if you've got the tools and time.

John

***JPWEraser*** · 12-21-2006, 05:57 AM

I wanted to do it myself really, but my service advisor (guy that actually sold me the car when he was a salesman there - he and I are pretty good friends) told me that Subaru has problems with honoring warranty issues when some services aren't performed by a verifiable source, aka a dealership. I believe him - hes never jerked me around before. I pulled an idiot and forgot to bring my wheel lug lock with me when I went over there to get the service done so the brake portion was mostly untouched which really sucks because my pads are next to gone. I can't decide if I want to try to get them replaced under the 3yr/36k warranty or just buy some aftermarket pads at this point. The stock pads perform just fine for me and how I use the car - but I could sure use less dusting.

fullerton · 12-21-2006, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JPWEraser

I can't decide if I want to try to get them replaced under the 3yr/36k warranty or just buy some aftermarket pads at this point. The stock pads perform just fine for me and how I use the car - but I could sure use less dusting.

Get them replaced, then sell them here. Replace them yourself with your choice of pads.

Also- most of us have destroyed out warranty so throughly, that it doesn't matter at this point if they know when service was done. Your sig makes it look like you have done a good job of voiding most of your engine and suspension warranty. What have you to lose?

***JPWEraser*** · 12-21-2006, 08:30 AM

I see what you're saying but the dealership that I deal with is pretty mod friendly. They aren't going to void my entire warranty because I have lowering springs. I have done a good bit of modding, but I do not abuse my car and they know it. Kinda have to play both sides I suppose. Anyhow, you've given me some things to consider, so thanks for your input!

fullerton · 12-21-2006, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JPWEraser

I see what you're saying but the dealership that I deal with is pretty mod friendly. They aren't going to void my entire warranty because I have lowering springs. I have done a good bit of modding, but I do not abuse my car and they know it. Kinda have to play both sides I suppose. Anyhow, you've given me some things to consider, so thanks for your input!

if you noticed, i did not say void your entire warranty, but if you change things, the dealership can easily say that caused a problem. maybe you have a nice dealer, one who will kinda turn a blind eye to the mod, but there are many that (i hear) will not.

one thing to consider- if they don't see problems with mods, maybe you should have them do your service, so that when something breaks that was modified, they will be more likely to help you out since you helped them out.

scubadiver424 · 12-21-2006, 08:56 AM

if you have receipts and proof that you did the service yourself, then you are fine, dealerships and car companies cannot entrap you into going to them, those things are just said to bring the dealerships the dough$$$$, because thats really where they make their money.

***JPWEraser*** · 12-21-2006, 08:56 AM

I am pretty loyal to this particular dealership. It's 60 miles (1 way) out of my way over the mountains on the TN/NC line. They have always been good to me whether is was service related or sale related. They have their own in-house performance division so I am confident that as long as I keep them happy with service and referrals, they will do what they can to keep everything on the level for me.

***JPWEraser*** · 12-21-2006, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by scubadiver424

if you have receipts and proof that you did the service yourself, then you are fine, dealerships and car companies cannot entrap you into going to them, those things are just said to bring the dealerships the dough$$$$, because thats really where they make their money.

I have every receipt for everything I've bought for the car, even oil from Auto Zone (I'm OCD like that, unfortunately) and I log everything I do or have done to the car on my.subaru.com. I believe I have a reliable record of everything thats been done to the car to quell any possible suspicions if the time were to come that I need warranty work done. The dealership actually makes more money off of warrnanty paid work than customer paid work, and by a fairly sizable amount.

Conekiller13 · 12-26-2006, 03:42 PM

Here is a qoute for a 30k service from My shop..............

This is an estimate of 30K service to your vehicle. Check and inspects done at no charge as part of oil change.
If you have any questions at all please contact us at 503-639-5588
Thank You.

tyler@tylersautomotive.com
www.tylersautomotive.com

Estimate #36649
Tyler's Automotive
503-639-5588

2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STi 2457CC 2.5Liter H4
License Number State OR

--- Labor/Notes ---
$12.00 LUBE, OIL & FILTER CHANGE
$62.50 COOLING SYSTEM POWER FLUSH
Includes: Clean entire system with detergent. Process is thermostat operated to ensure all fluid is properly flushed. Re-fill to proper level.
$50.00 FUEL FILTER - R&R M
Serviced in Fuel Pump.
$40.50 FLUSH BRAKE SYSTEM
Includes install brake bleeder to the master cylinder and all four corners of the vehicle. We then use a three step computer controlled bleed to insure total purge of contaminated fluid and trapped air in the braking system, then road test for proper braking.
$12.50 TIRE ROTATION
--- Parts ---
$9.32 OIL FIL
$11.80 SAE 5W20 MOTOR OIL QT
$17.77 AIR FIL
$13.85 ANTIFREEZ
$15.95 RADIATOR FLUSH KIT
$28.33 FUEL FIL
$6.69 BRAKE FLUID
Note: M - Labor Database, Copyright, Mitchell International, All Rights Reserved
------------------------------
$177.50 Labor less discount : $40.96
$103.71 Parts less discount : $33.83
$0.00 Sublet
$14.20 Shop Sply / Enviro
$0.00 Charges
$0.00 Sales Tax (Tax @ $0.00 * 0.0000%)
------------------------------
$295.41 Estimate

11-27-2006, 01:21 PM	#1
*JPWEraser* Platinum Member Car: 05 STi Fav Mod: Do Luck CF Location: East TN Posts: 1,569 Join Date: May 2005 Trader Rating: (5)	30k Service?! Man, I just scheduled one of these and was quoted $380 without the plug replacement(just had new plugs put in it recently). This seems high to me. I do my own oil changes and tire rotations so I could have them leave that part off I guess. Is this normal? This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

12-26-2006, 03:42 PM	#14
Conekiller13 STI Driver Car: Black '05 STi Fav Mod: Dealer delete option. Location: Donald, OR Posts: 253 Join Date: Oct 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	service Here is a qoute for a 30k service from My shop.............. This is an estimate of 30K service to your vehicle. Check and inspects done at no charge as part of oil change. If you have any questions at all please contact us at 503-639-5588 Thank You. tyler@tylersautomotive.com www.tylersautomotive.com Estimate #36649 Tyler's Automotive 503-639-5588 2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STi 2457CC 2.5Liter H4 License Number State OR --- Labor/Notes --- $12.00 LUBE, OIL & FILTER CHANGE $62.50 COOLING SYSTEM POWER FLUSH Includes: Clean entire system with detergent. Process is thermostat operated to ensure all fluid is properly flushed. Re-fill to proper level. $50.00 FUEL FILTER - R&R M Serviced in Fuel Pump. $40.50 FLUSH BRAKE SYSTEM Includes install brake bleeder to the master cylinder and all four corners of the vehicle. We then use a three step computer controlled bleed to insure total purge of contaminated fluid and trapped air in the braking system, then road test for proper braking. $12.50 TIRE ROTATION --- Parts --- $9.32 OIL FIL $11.80 SAE 5W20 MOTOR OIL QT $17.77 AIR FIL $13.85 ANTIFREEZ $15.95 RADIATOR FLUSH KIT $28.33 FUEL FIL $6.69 BRAKE FLUID Note: M - Labor Database, Copyright, Mitchell International, All Rights Reserved ------------------------------ $177.50 Labor less discount : $40.96 $103.71 Parts less discount : $33.83 $0.00 Sublet $14.20 Shop Sply / Enviro $0.00 Charges $0.00 Sales Tax (Tax @ $0.00 * 0.0000%) ------------------------------ $295.41 Estimate This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

12-20-2006, 12:55 PM	#2
francoej Amateur STI Driver Car: 05 STi Location: SoCal Posts: 21 Join Date: May 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	My dealer (in CA) charges $525 (plugs not included; I think they're good until 60K). I told them not to do the oil/tire rotation/air filter and got it dropped to $400.

12-20-2006, 01:03 PM	#3
fullerton abracious Car: AW GDF-D Fav Mod: Track time Location: Near a 100oct pump Posts: 16,553 Join Date: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (10)	i think you, personally, can do most of the stuff in that service. what exactly are they going to do for you?

12-20-2006, 01:37 PM	#5
fullerton abracious Car: AW GDF-D Fav Mod: Track time Location: Near a 100oct pump Posts: 16,553 Join Date: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (10)	Easily done by you: Replace Engine oil Replace Engine oil filter Perform Replace engine coolant and inspect cooling system, hoses and connections ( I am assuming, I have yet to do this.) Replace fuel filter and inspect fuel system, hoses and connections Replace Air cleaner element Replace Transmission/Differential (Front & Rear) lubricants (Gear oil) Replace Brake fluid Inspect Disc brake pads and discs, front and rear axle boots and axle shaft joint portions Inspect Brake linings and drums Inspect brake lines and check operation of parking and service brake system Inspect Clutch operation Inspect Steering and suspension Rotate and Inspect Tires

12-20-2006, 01:44 PM	#6
jsmithjr732 STI Driver Car: 2007 SWP STI Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 239 Join Date: Nov 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	I loved doing my 30K on my ol' 02 WRX. Really brings you closer to the vehicle. Learned a few things while I was at it too. Do it yourself if you've got the tools and time. John

12-21-2006, 05:57 AM	#7
*JPWEraser* Platinum Member Car: 05 STi Fav Mod: Do Luck CF Location: East TN Posts: 1,569 Join Date: May 2005 Trader Rating: (5)	I wanted to do it myself really, but my service advisor (guy that actually sold me the car when he was a salesman there - he and I are pretty good friends) told me that Subaru has problems with honoring warranty issues when some services aren't performed by a verifiable source, aka a dealership. I believe him - hes never jerked me around before. I pulled an idiot and forgot to bring my wheel lug lock with me when I went over there to get the service done so the brake portion was mostly untouched which really sucks because my pads are next to gone. I can't decide if I want to try to get them replaced under the 3yr/36k warranty or just buy some aftermarket pads at this point. The stock pads perform just fine for me and how I use the car - but I could sure use less dusting.

12-21-2006, 08:30 AM	#9
*JPWEraser* Platinum Member Car: 05 STi Fav Mod: Do Luck CF Location: East TN Posts: 1,569 Join Date: May 2005 Trader Rating: (5)	I see what you're saying but the dealership that I deal with is pretty mod friendly. They aren't going to void my entire warranty because I have lowering springs. I have done a good bit of modding, but I do not abuse my car and they know it. Kinda have to play both sides I suppose. Anyhow, you've given me some things to consider, so thanks for your input!

12-21-2006, 08:56 AM	#11
scubadiver424 S204 Racer Car: 06 WRB GOLD STI Fav Mod: NRA Sticker Location: US of A Posts: 3,623 Join Date: Mar 2006 Trader Rating: (8)	if you have receipts and proof that you did the service yourself, then you are fine, dealerships and car companies cannot entrap you into going to them, those things are just said to bring the dealerships the dough$$$$, because thats really where they make their money.