help with warrenty issues

Rixxy · 05-11-2006, 12:04 AM

ok i know there is like a law/act or something that protects a cars warrenty against mods. and i know its something like modifications can only void the part of the warrenty that they interfer with. so bascially lowering springs cant void engine warrenty. and there is a name for this act im thinking it starts with an M. but i cant remember. but anyway i need help.

my suby dealership told me they wont warrenty my car any more because of strut bars, a system, and neons. which is complete bull****. what do you guys suggest i do to fight for my warrenty? thanks

evokillinSTi · 05-11-2006, 12:18 AM

hell id void your warranty also if you put neons on an STi

from what i know any mod you have has to be directly connected with the problem in order to void your warranty, PLEASE TAKE THE NEONS OFF

scubbySTIve · 05-11-2006, 01:13 AM

+1 for.....WUT THE HELL WHERE U THINKING WITH THE NEONS......lol juss my .02 cents

**SCOOBYTRAP** · 05-11-2006, 02:43 AM

what is it that you're having problems with, is it electrical? If its mechanical... Are you sure they didn't deny you because of that little bottle in your trunk?

sti robot · 05-11-2006, 03:48 AM

i'm guessing here but the bottle is probably the bazooka bass tube made to look like a NOS branded nitrous bottle. It is mounted in the correct fashion (?) for a nitrous bottle though. Still the dealer could think that it is one or claim it is one or whatever.

As I see it they have you over a barrel, unless you are or someone you know is a high powered lawyer. Basically they can screw you over and unless you have the money to take them to court you are SOL. And in court they could just claim you had X mods which you could only deny with evidence from another mechanic and a lack of reciepts or credit card charges is not proof something wasn't done to the car.

Best bet is to take it to another dealer or call SOA.

05_GD7 · 05-11-2006, 04:41 AM

Its called the Moss-Magnusson act.

So what's wrong with your car? (besides the neons)

FlyinbySTi · 05-11-2006, 04:47 AM

There are about 29438594345987342 posts about warranty issue's. Did you try the search button first? oh and take the neon's off please.

Fast_STi · 05-11-2006, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 05_GD7

So what's wrong with your car? (besides the neons)

Yeah, what are you taking the car in for?

AmeenR · 05-11-2006, 06:41 AM

Take off the neons for the love of all that is holy. Neons arent even street legal anyways.

Reason why: My sister had an 02 RSX that had neons intstalled @ Ultimate Electronics. She called me on her way home saying that "my car is leaving a black trail of something". I get home to see her oil pan had drained almost the entire supply of oil from it. Turns out the Asshat tech which installed the neons drilled DIRECTLY into the oil pan while running the wires to power them.

Jas0nn · 05-11-2006, 07:10 AM

to answer your question: it is the magnuson-moss warranty act. hspn has an article about it on their site. essentially, it elucidates that a warranty cannot be blanket voided simply because mods exist. further, it places the burden of proof upon a manufacturer to prove that a mod cause a failure, only then can a warranty claim legitamately be denied (but you will likely have to sue to get this far). basically, the idea is that a consumer is protected from the following situation: you have a stage II sti with a broken window motor. obviously the stage II mods have no effect on the failure; remember that a warranty claim is only valid if a manufacturing defect is present. subaru cannot LEGALLY deny your warranty claim because of the mods.

now whats going on with your car?? if you believe the mods have nothing to do with the failure, bring them a copy of the act and let them know you've contacted an attorney as well as subaru. make them take the car in, if only for them to deny the claim. your car is an 06; most states have lemon laws that state if a car is in the shop 3-4 times for resolution of the same problem within the first year, the lemon law applies. while this may a very far reaching interpretation of the law (and a technically which only the most astute attorney MAY be able to exploit), it gives you a little leverage.

and please take off the neons. we need an image that says everytime you turn your neons on, god kills a kitten.

Rixxy · 05-11-2006, 08:18 AM

first off, shut the **** up about the neons okay? keep your style ill keep mine i dont want none of your **** lol. stay on topic

now. thank you that was the act i was looking for, ill deff be looking it up and taking that to my dealer. as for my problem there is a short in the wiring harness, its causing the car to not start when its cold and when it does start it hardley runs untill i get get it to rev up and hold it at 4 grand for a few min to warm it up
then it runs alright. now nothing ive done even touches the wiring harness there is no reason they should be voiding my entire warrenty. thanks for your help.

2006stiguy · 05-11-2006, 08:29 AM

I was on your car domain page and was checking out the pics-
Is the wiring for the shift light still like that? And do you have N2O? I can understand why they would not want to warranty a driveability issue or electrical issue with all the wiring you have done or the nitrous...on a side not how did you hook up the shift light? This could be causing your problems?

**SCOOBYTRAP** · 05-11-2006, 08:33 AM

If you tampered with rpm wire/ecu for shift light, this would give them a leg to stand on. 2 cents

La Mer · 05-11-2006, 08:37 AM

All that electrical **** in there, I don't think you have a fighting chance... I hate to judge you on pics, but that shift light scares me. Infact the whole car kinda scares me... God only knows how the wiring for the neons, amp, stereo is. I think you are kinda f'ed. Good luck though.

Jas0nn · 05-11-2006, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rixxy

first off, shut the **** up about the neons okay? keep your style ill keep mine i dont want none of your **** lol. stay on topic

first off, **** off. you come to a site where you're still a new member, asking for help, and tell someone who actually responded to your question to shut the **** up?? pathetic. try nabisco, i think you'll get along alot better personality wise. have fun with those neons.

second, you have electrical issues and you obviously have modifications which require tapping into the electrical system. are you suprised they aren't warrantying your claim?? a warranty claim is only valid if the mod didnt cause the failure, and it looks like they have more than enough ammo with which to prove this. get an independent shop to fix it cause i dont think subaru will, nor ought to, warranty such a situation.

edit: check out the pics on his cardomain (but he didnt mess with the electrical system<br>

05-11-2006, 12:04 AM	#1
Rixxy Junior STI Driver Car: 06 STi Fav Mod: the one that brings the most attention Location: The Dalles, Oregon Posts: 141 Join Date: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	help with warrenty issues ok i know there is like a law/act or something that protects a cars warrenty against mods. and i know its something like modifications can only void the part of the warrenty that they interfer with. so bascially lowering springs cant void engine warrenty. and there is a name for this act im thinking it starts with an M. but i cant remember. but anyway i need help. my suby dealership told me they wont warrenty my car any more because of strut bars, a system, and neons. which is complete bull****. what do you guys suggest i do to fight for my warrenty? thanks This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

05-11-2006, 12:18 AM	#2
evokillinSTi Junior STI Driver Car: 05 subaru wrx sti Fav Mod: Ecutek Reflash Location: coachella valley Posts: 178 Join Date: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (1)	hell id void your warranty also if you put neons on an STi from what i know any mod you have has to be directly connected with the problem in order to void your warranty, PLEASE TAKE THE NEONS OFF

05-11-2006, 01:13 AM	#3
scubbySTIve Professional STI Driver Car: 05 CGM STi Location: centennial, CO Posts: 473 Join Date: Feb 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	+1 for.....WUT THE HELL WHERE U THINKING WITH THE NEONS......lol juss my .02 cents

05-11-2006, 02:43 AM	#4
SCOOBYTRAP Gold Member Car: 05 STi CGM Fav Mod: JDM Foglights Location: NY Posts: 521 Join Date: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (2)	what is it that you're having problems with, is it electrical? If its mechanical... Are you sure they didn't deny you because of that little bottle in your trunk?

05-11-2006, 03:48 AM	#5
sti robot Spec C Club Car: 04 STI Java black w/ Fav Mod: a garage Location: Just outside Manassass VA Posts: 1,420 Join Date: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	i'm guessing here but the bottle is probably the bazooka bass tube made to look like a NOS branded nitrous bottle. It is mounted in the correct fashion (?) for a nitrous bottle though. Still the dealer could think that it is one or claim it is one or whatever. As I see it they have you over a barrel, unless you are or someone you know is a high powered lawyer. Basically they can screw you over and unless you have the money to take them to court you are SOL. And in court they could just claim you had X mods which you could only deny with evidence from another mechanic and a lack of reciepts or credit card charges is not proof something wasn't done to the car. Best bet is to take it to another dealer or call SOA.

05-11-2006, 04:41 AM	#6
05_GD7 Spec C Club Car: 05 STi - Black Fav Mod: No Lien Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,883 Join Date: Mar 2006 Trader Rating: (2)	Its called the Moss-Magnusson act. So what's wrong with your car? (besides the neons)

05-11-2006, 04:47 AM	#7
FlyinbySTi Silver Member Car: 05' STi Fav Mod: JDM Fogs Posts: 2,393 Join Date: Dec 2005 Trader Rating: (7)	There are about 29438594345987342 posts about warranty issue's. Did you try the search button first? oh and take the neon's off please.

05-11-2006, 06:41 AM	#9
AmeenR Senior STI Driver Car: 05 CGM STi Fav Mod: Seat Time Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 351 Join Date: Jun 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Take off the neons for the love of all that is holy. Neons arent even street legal anyways. Reason why: My sister had an 02 RSX that had neons intstalled @ Ultimate Electronics. She called me on her way home saying that "my car is leaving a black trail of something". I get home to see her oil pan had drained almost the entire supply of oil from it. Turns out the Asshat tech which installed the neons drilled DIRECTLY into the oil pan while running the wires to power them.

05-11-2006, 07:10 AM	#10
Jas0nn Professional STI Racer Car: Dolphin Grey B6 S4 Fav Mod: i miss my sti Location: Westchester, New York Posts: 645 Join Date: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	to answer your question: it is the magnuson-moss warranty act. hspn has an article about it on their site. essentially, it elucidates that a warranty cannot be blanket voided simply because mods exist. further, it places the burden of proof upon a manufacturer to prove that a mod cause a failure, only then can a warranty claim legitamately be denied (but you will likely have to sue to get this far). basically, the idea is that a consumer is protected from the following situation: you have a stage II sti with a broken window motor. obviously the stage II mods have no effect on the failure; remember that a warranty claim is only valid if a manufacturing defect is present. subaru cannot LEGALLY deny your warranty claim because of the mods. now whats going on with your car?? if you believe the mods have nothing to do with the failure, bring them a copy of the act and let them know you've contacted an attorney as well as subaru. make them take the car in, if only for them to deny the claim. your car is an 06; most states have lemon laws that state if a car is in the shop 3-4 times for resolution of the same problem within the first year, the lemon law applies. while this may a very far reaching interpretation of the law (and a technically which only the most astute attorney MAY be able to exploit), it gives you a little leverage. and please take off the neons. we need an image that says everytime you turn your neons on, god kills a kitten.

05-11-2006, 08:18 AM	#11
Rixxy Junior STI Driver Car: 06 STi Fav Mod: the one that brings the most attention Location: The Dalles, Oregon Posts: 141 Join Date: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	first off, shut the ** up about the neons okay? keep your style ill keep mine i dont want none of your ** lol. stay on topic now. thank you that was the act i was looking for, ill deff be looking it up and taking that to my dealer. as for my problem there is a short in the wiring harness, its causing the car to not start when its cold and when it does start it hardley runs untill i get get it to rev up and hold it at 4 grand for a few min to warm it up then it runs alright. now nothing ive done even touches the wiring harness there is no reason they should be voiding my entire warrenty. thanks for your help.

05-11-2006, 08:29 AM	#12
2006stiguy STI Driver Car: 06 Sti WRB/Silver Fav Mod: RCE Springs Location: Lebanon, PA Posts: 260 Join Date: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	I was on your car domain page and was checking out the pics- Is the wiring for the shift light still like that? And do you have N2O? I can understand why they would not want to warranty a driveability issue or electrical issue with all the wiring you have done or the nitrous...on a side not how did you hook up the shift light? This could be causing your problems?

05-11-2006, 08:33 AM	#13
SCOOBYTRAP Gold Member Car: 05 STi CGM Fav Mod: JDM Foglights Location: NY Posts: 521 Join Date: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (2)	If you tampered with rpm wire/ecu for shift light, this would give them a leg to stand on. 2 cents

05-11-2006, 08:37 AM	#14
La Mer NIИja Location: US - Southern California Posts: 38,220 Join Date: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	All that electrical **** in there, I don't think you have a fighting chance... I hate to judge you on pics, but that shift light scares me. Infact the whole car kinda scares me... God only knows how the wiring for the neons, amp, stereo is. I think you are kinda f'ed. Good luck though.