replacing clutch under warranty

BillFromTR · 03-07-2006, 04:54 PM

So my clutch is fried after 14,000 miles and I'm taking it to the dealership tommorow for them to look at it. I'm cobb stage 2 with a stealthback and I am preparing to hear them deny me. My question is besides telling them that I'll contact SOA what is the name of that one case, like Morris somethingorother, the one where they have to prove it was my mods or abuse that caused it. I just want to use the correct terminology so that they no that I wont take no for an answer.

Grunt · 03-07-2006, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BillFromTR

So my clutch is fried after 14,000 miles and I'm taking it to the dealership tommorow for them to look at it. I'm cobb stage 2 with a stealthback and I am preparing to hear them deny me. My question is besides telling them that I'll contact SOA what is the name of that one case, like Morris somethingorother, the one where they have to prove it was my mods or abuse that caused it. I just want to use the correct terminology so that they no that I wont take no for an answer.

Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act. Just keep your cool... i'm sure they'll work something out. Good luck!

BillFromTR · 03-07-2006, 05:01 PM

Thanx alot
I dont plan on being nasty or anything, its just that I know what there gonna say before they say it.

LightWerkz · 03-07-2006, 05:18 PM

yes of course, its best to educate yourself..

but a worn clutch is a worn clutch, its wear and tear, like brakes...

KEVS1000 · 03-08-2006, 11:44 AM

BillFromTR
Please post updates as to what happens with your local dealer and SOA. I am very interested in this topic as I am considering going Stage 2 and worried about having the same problem.
Thanks

WRX8STI · 03-08-2006, 12:06 PM

If I put myself in the dealers situation, I'd deny warranty work. More power means more wear, and 14k miles out of clutch is due to how you drove it, and the increased hp and torque However, if you play it cool, they could do you a favor and work something out. If they do warranty it, consider yourself lucky, because this is a situation where I have to back up the dealer. Once you start modding, a clutch should never be covered under warranty for any reason. Good luck!!

Shaner · 03-09-2006, 01:38 PM

I had a 2003 Accord v6 6-speed where the clutch fried after about 4000kms... heh

Conekiller13 · 03-09-2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ESsTeAEyEe

yes of course, its best to educate yourself..

but a worn clutch is a worn clutch, its wear and tear, like brakes...

Yes a clutch is wear and tear like brakes.......however Subaru covers brakes up to 36k miles. As long as it doesn't look like abuse, it should be no problem.

BillFromTR · 03-09-2006, 01:55 PM

Well heres my update. They denied me due to modifications as expected, but heres the kicker. They included in my modifications list things that I dont have. One of which is a blow off valve, honestly its makes me wonder if they even popped the hood. They also said that during the test drive that there were no signs of clutch slippage. Beleive me the clutch is slipping. He said that the revs did jump on him but it was so quick, he thinks its something electrical. He must have never driven an STi, the revs raise fast on STi's. To top it off, they charged me $95 dollars for driving the car and giving me bullsh!t information. Any suggestions?

WRX8STI · 03-09-2006, 02:03 PM

I suggest wearing down that clutch a bit more, so it slips very noticably, putting car back to stock so it's undetectable, and then taking it to different dealer for warranty work. It's wear and tear warranty work under 36k miles, so if you can avoid them finding out car is modded, that is your best bet. Either that or just baby the hell out of car, so you can get more use out of clutch before having to replace. It may be slipping, but under normal driving and not as modded, it probably will hold up for quite a while. I guess I misunderstood you. You said your clutch is fried. That would mean it's slipping beyond ability to drive it very well if not much at all. Good luck!!

Ikon · 03-09-2006, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Conekiller13

Yes a clutch is wear and tear like brakes.......however Subaru covers brakes up to 36k miles. As long as it doesn't look like abuse, it should be no problem.

ditto... clutches is a wear and tear so im not sure..

BillFromTR · 03-09-2006, 02:14 PM

I just dont want to burn the clutch down to bare bones because I'll be miserable until it finally leaves me stranded.

WRX8STI · 03-09-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BillFromTR

I just dont want to burn the clutch down to bare bones because I'll be miserable until it finally leaves me stranded.

This is the risk you must face and own up for if you mod a car. I highly doubt the clutch would be bad if car was kept stock. You might want to just tone the car down a bit, take it easy, then when clutch gets really weak upgrade it the right way so it can meet your power mods long term. Even if you were able to get clutch replaced under warranty, history will repeat itself, unless you drastically change the way you drive. Best bet is to play by the rules, and get this car done right the second time around. You conceited that your car is modded, which means premature clutch wear, so the dealer is in the right here. I don't agree with them charging you for taking it in. That is just rubbing salt in the wound. You know the dealership is right on this, so facing up to what's been done is the right policy. Of course, you can still complain, and deny any wrong doing, but it's gonna be a painstaking process, and technicality is the only way you'll win. Sometimes the person who isn't right does win, but ask yourself if it's worth the trouble, and there's a strong possibility you will lose, because there's little denying you have caused this, and it is not the car.

BillFromTR · 03-09-2006, 02:51 PM

Your right, its time to go aftermarket out of my own pocket. Thanx for the response. I still think the dealership is in the wrong stating I have mods that I dont and telling me its not my clutch when it is.

RenoSTi · 03-09-2006, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WRX8STI

I suggest wearing down that clutch a bit more, so it slips very noticably, putting car back to stock so it's undetectable, and then taking it to different dealer for warranty work. It's wear and tear warranty work under 36k miles, so if you can avoid them finding out car is modded, that is your best bet. Either that or just baby the hell out of car, so you can get more use out of clutch before having to replace. It may be slipping, but under normal driving and not as modded, it probably will hold up for quite a while. I guess I misunderstood you. You said your clutch is fried. That would mean it's slipping beyond ability to drive it very well if not much at all. Good luck!!

I am not sure, but I suspect that the Service Departments share a common database so the 2nd Dealer may know what the 1st Dealer has already done and said in their test of your car.

03-07-2006, 04:54 PM	#1
BillFromTR Spec C Club Car: Wingless '05 Fav Mod: BOV and MBC Location: Armpit of America Posts: 2,230 Join Date: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (4)	replacing clutch under warranty So my clutch is fried after 14,000 miles and I'm taking it to the dealership tommorow for them to look at it. I'm cobb stage 2 with a stealthback and I am preparing to hear them deny me. My question is besides telling them that I'll contact SOA what is the name of that one case, like Morris somethingorother, the one where they have to prove it was my mods or abuse that caused it. I just want to use the correct terminology so that they no that I wont take no for an answer. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

03-07-2006, 05:01 PM	#3
BillFromTR Spec C Club Car: Wingless '05 Fav Mod: BOV and MBC Location: Armpit of America Posts: 2,230 Join Date: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (4)	Thanx alot I dont plan on being nasty or anything, its just that I know what there gonna say before they say it.

03-07-2006, 05:18 PM	#4
LightWerkz STI Master Car: E46 M3 Fav Mod: ZCP Wheels Location: Clifton Posts: 7,495 Join Date: Aug 2005 Trader Rating: (77)	yes of course, its best to educate yourself.. but a worn clutch is a worn clutch, its wear and tear, like brakes...

03-08-2006, 11:44 AM	#5
KEVS1000 Silver Member Car: 06 STI WRB Fav Mod: Fumoto Valve Location: SATX Posts: 97 Join Date: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	BillFromTR Please post updates as to what happens with your local dealer and SOA. I am very interested in this topic as I am considering going Stage 2 and worried about having the same problem. Thanks

03-08-2006, 12:06 PM	#6
WRX8STI Grassroots STI Racer Car: 06 Mazdaspeed 6 and 06 S2000 Location: Wherever my music takes me Posts: 581 Join Date: Jan 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	If I put myself in the dealers situation, I'd deny warranty work. More power means more wear, and 14k miles out of clutch is due to how you drove it, and the increased hp and torque However, if you play it cool, they could do you a favor and work something out. If they do warranty it, consider yourself lucky, because this is a situation where I have to back up the dealer. Once you start modding, a clutch should never be covered under warranty for any reason. Good luck!!

03-09-2006, 01:38 PM	#7
Shaner Junior STI Driver Car: 04 Subaru WRX STi (silver) Fav Mod: Suspension Location: Alliston, Ontario Posts: 145 Join Date: Nov 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	I had a 2003 Accord v6 6-speed where the clutch fried after about 4000kms... heh

03-09-2006, 01:55 PM	#9
BillFromTR Spec C Club Car: Wingless '05 Fav Mod: BOV and MBC Location: Armpit of America Posts: 2,230 Join Date: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (4)	Well heres my update. They denied me due to modifications as expected, but heres the kicker. They included in my modifications list things that I dont have. One of which is a blow off valve, honestly its makes me wonder if they even popped the hood. They also said that during the test drive that there were no signs of clutch slippage. Beleive me the clutch is slipping. He said that the revs did jump on him but it was so quick, he thinks its something electrical. He must have never driven an STi, the revs raise fast on STi's. To top it off, they charged me $95 dollars for driving the car and giving me bullsh!t information. Any suggestions?

03-09-2006, 02:03 PM	#10
WRX8STI Grassroots STI Racer Car: 06 Mazdaspeed 6 and 06 S2000 Location: Wherever my music takes me Posts: 581 Join Date: Jan 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	I suggest wearing down that clutch a bit more, so it slips very noticably, putting car back to stock so it's undetectable, and then taking it to different dealer for warranty work. It's wear and tear warranty work under 36k miles, so if you can avoid them finding out car is modded, that is your best bet. Either that or just baby the hell out of car, so you can get more use out of clutch before having to replace. It may be slipping, but under normal driving and not as modded, it probably will hold up for quite a while. I guess I misunderstood you. You said your clutch is fried. That would mean it's slipping beyond ability to drive it very well if not much at all. Good luck!!

03-09-2006, 02:14 PM	#12
BillFromTR Spec C Club Car: Wingless '05 Fav Mod: BOV and MBC Location: Armpit of America Posts: 2,230 Join Date: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (4)	I just dont want to burn the clutch down to bare bones because I'll be miserable until it finally leaves me stranded.

03-09-2006, 02:51 PM	#14
BillFromTR Spec C Club Car: Wingless '05 Fav Mod: BOV and MBC Location: Armpit of America Posts: 2,230 Join Date: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (4)	Your right, its time to go aftermarket out of my own pocket. Thanx for the response. I still think the dealership is in the wrong stating I have mods that I dont and telling me its not my clutch when it is.