[gabedude]

Like I said, stock boost is 14.9 PSI peak, it is in the tables. Since Subaru used such a large O/L C/L delay, they had to use way too much WGDC and reign overboost in with large turbo dynamics corrections (proportional IIRC). The 07 STI tune (boost-wise) is very different than previous MY cars. They will overboost up to 18 PSI or more on the stock map, stock intake, stock exhaust, stock filter. I have logs to show it. That is 3 PSI of overboost. I posted this a year ago on that other forum. Unless the dealership has pulled a max PSI of over 19, then it is well within stock parameters (although those are bad and they tend to blow things up on the stock 07 tune).

[WaniuszY]

Feed me more.
I will provide all this info to attorney.
In most positive scenario if I win, everybody's case would be automatically won if they refer to my case in court. It's called precedence :-)

[mofoSTI]

I hope they take care of you. This really sucks.

[gabedude]

Originally Posted by WaniuszY

Feed me more.
I will provide all this info to attorney.
In most positive scenario if I win, everybody's case would be automatically won if they refer to my case in court. It's called precedence :-)

That would be nice, but I don't see it happening. If you want datalogs of the stock map doing ****ty stuff, I have em.

[jagstyle]

so what did the SOA Rep say? did they make a decision?

[WaniuszY]

Story updated in first post again.

Please read.

[upncummr]

My suggestion is to get everything in writing.

1. The specific reason for the denial of the warranty claim.
2. What evidence they have to support that specific reason and how that evidence relates specifically to the failure you've had.
3. Whether there are alternative explanations for the evidence they're basing their decision on. For example - worn tires - could that be caused by the local road surfaces in your area? All roads surfaces are not created equally. Could it be explained by the type of roads you travel (e.g. hilly or curvy)? Or is the ONLY "possible" explanation that the car was abused?
Same thing for the clutch. Could it be explained by poor technique by the driver in normal usage or is the ONLY "possible" explanation that the car was abused?
4. Specifically what steps they took to identify and recitfy the problem.

This is all information that can be shared with an attorney if it comes to that.

I'd also explain when you purchased the car, how it's driven and maintained, and the fact that you're less than halfway through the warranty period and you are very surprised the engine has failed.

Hope this helps.

Gary

[WaniuszY]

Originally Posted by upncummr

My suggestion is to get everything in writing.

1. The specific reason for the denial of the warranty claim.

Coming. I told him I don't treat phone conversation to be binding and he confirmed he'll send it.

Originally Posted by upncummr

2. What evidence they have to support that specific reason and how that evidence relates specifically to the failure you've had.

What he said several times is that the reason for denial is that they can not associate this with part defect. That this don't just happen. And I told him that they don't blueprint every motor and he can't know for sure that this particular piston was within tolerances. I work in manufacturing environment and repair and program automation equipment and I know that even though you try to eliminate that you are still gonna get some parts that pass quality inspection and still be non conforming to standards. Sad but true.

Originally Posted by upncummr

3. Whether there are alternative explanations for the evidence they're basing their decision on. For example - worn tires - could that be caused by the local road surfaces in your area? All roads surfaces are not created equally. Could it be explained by the type of roads you travel (e.g. hilly or curvy)? Or is the ONLY "possible" explanation that the car was abused?
Same thing for the clutch. Could it be explained by poor technique by the driver in normal usage or is the ONLY "possible" explanation that the car was abused?

First I did 16k on these stock RE070s and I think that's this is good still. I admit I like to push a car a little faster around certain curves but that has nothing to do with motor. I would if I broke control arm or something. Car was NEVER tracked. 100% stock.
I have to admit it was a little difiicult to master clutch since it's so stiff. I sure may have sliped it too much especially since I tried to keep the ride experience comfortable for my wife. Riding clutch is still not a reason for motor to break.

Originally Posted by upncummr

4. Specifically what steps they took to identify and recitfy the problem.

That's what I'm asking you guys. Help to ask right questions to the inspector when they call me tommorow.

Originally Posted by upncummr

This is all information that can be shared with an attorney if it comes to that.

Hope this helps.

Gary

That will be a little more difficult since I like everybody else signed an arbitration agreement. I'm exploring the arbitration procedure in between posts.

I appreciate your input Gary

[upncummr]

Good luck.

I think under almost any circumstance they have an obligation to explain their decision and to document it in writing. That explanation should include how they arrived at the decision and how they excluded certain items as factors.

The arbitrators will be interested in understanding their process, just like an attorney would be.

Gary

[WaniuszY]

Believe me I'm waiting for the decision in writing. Want to see what kind of bullcrap they come up with.

I want you to be sure I'm not giving up.

[4sevens]

Last year my 07 limited's #4 blew. I only had 12k.
SOG / SOA claimed the care was modified. It was not.
I never drove it any harder than it was designed for.

I had to pay for a brand new short block. AND they ripped me off on the
block (I found out later - they sold it cheaper on ebay - but they
wouldn't budge and held my car hostage). I paid $8k total and left
and never came back.

My next car will not be a subaru.

[WaniuszY]

Originally Posted by 4sevens

Last year my 07 limited's #4 blew. I only had 12k.
SOG / SOA claimed the care was modified. It was not.
I never drove it any harder than it was designed for.

I had to pay for a brand new short block. AND they ripped me off on the
block (I found out later - they sold it cheaper on ebay - but they
wouldn't budge and held my car hostage). I paid $8k total and left
and never came back.

My next car will not be a subaru.

That's really sh*tty man. First of all how did you end up paying 8k if u can buy brand new factory assembled shortblock for even 1.5k??????
Secondly I'm surprised you gave up. I know I won't, and I will use every chance I get.

[solovus]

Originally Posted by 4sevens

Last year my 07 limited's #4 blew. I only had 12k.
SOG / SOA claimed the care was modified. It was not.
I never drove it any harder than it was designed for.

I had to pay for a brand new short block. AND they ripped me off on the
block (I found out later - they sold it cheaper on ebay - but they
wouldn't budge and held my car hostage). I paid $8k total and left
and never came back.

My next car will not be a subaru.

8k?! Jeebus...if it really wasn't modified you should've gotten a lawyer involved. You probably could've found one to take it on contingency if you could prove it wasn't modified.

[WaniuszY]

4sevens: Your mailbox is full of pm's so i couldn't pm you. Send me a pm when you clear it up. Have to ask you something.

[BIG3ETR]

not trying hijack... but if you get a blown #4 or any other for that matter, does it always pop a code? (P030? misfire) I don't think I have it, but am deathly afraid of it. Just wanna know what to watch out for... Thanks