Synthetic Oil???

stiboost21 · 02-09-2008, 01:01 PM

Hi guys, I went to the dealership today to make an appointment for an oil change. When I asked the guy at the counter to make sure they use synthetic oil on my 07 STi, they told me that they were having problems with synthetic oil and have been using regular oil. Has anyone else had this issue? If so, what would you recommend? Thanks alot, STiboost21.

Blackfang · 02-09-2008, 05:03 PM

I never have encountered a problem with Synthetic oil on a Subaru as long as it is changed every 3500-3750.

USNSTI · 02-09-2008, 05:06 PM

I'd recommend telling the dealer to keep their goddamned opinions to themselves and change the goddamned oil. Right now. Before I get angry.

***sbstiguy*** · 02-09-2008, 05:09 PM

LOL, it IS an 07 afterall, its a pissy car. But yeah, if you want syn, then they should give you syn, if the engine blows its a new engine for you and proves the point they should get their crap together

LSE · 02-09-2008, 06:01 PM

dude. remember that dealerships overcharge for their services. so rather than saying to you "go somewhere else because 99.99% of our people (who all they drive are forresters) don't got a clue what synth is, and so we don't carry it," they will tell you:

"synth = bad for your car. We recommend you get our oil. bla bla blah."

I've had 2 dealerships try to talk me into standard oil. They were rather small ones so I figured they just didn't bother offering it. Just find a dealer that does, or if you're lucky to have a garage, just change it yourself.

Mi_Black_Pearl · 02-09-2008, 06:17 PM

yeah i just read another thread concerning this matter. basically, the problem comes from those who think that just because they'e running syn, that they can prolong the normal oil changes therefore throwing CELs and changing timings. you should be fine as long as you do the normal oil change intervals (at least every 3750 miles) when running syn. first change for me was at 2500 from the dealership who didnt opt me for an option of running syn...changed it myself at 5200 wit mobile1 syn and just now at 7300 trying out GC (euro 0w-30)...

howboutthemapplz · 02-09-2008, 06:28 PM

ive been changing mobil 1 every 5k... maybe ill start doing 3k...

why 0w-30? what weight oil should you put in after you start modding, but with stock turbo?

Mi_Black_Pearl · 02-09-2008, 07:13 PM

search is your friend

> Everything you want to know about Motor Oil

or Bob Is The Oil Guy *

howboutthemapplz · 02-09-2008, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mi_Black_Pearl

search is your friend

> Everything you want to know about Motor Oil

or Bob Is The Oil Guy *

thanks, i did a couple searches, and found nothing.. then got sidetracked

Mi_Black_Pearl · 02-09-2008, 07:40 PM

its really a complicated issue trying to figure out what's "best" really-ive spent hours trying to read through only some of the info provided and found that it just all depends ...everything cant be perfect in any given moment, in the end it will be

howboutthemapplz · 02-09-2008, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mi_Black_Pearl

its really a complicated issue trying to figure out what's "best" really-ive spent hours trying to read through only some of the info provided and found that it just all depends ...everything cant be perfect in any given moment, in the end it will be

right, i just am thinking with modding it there should be a better oil to use, rather then OEM specs... thanks for the link, i am reading and reading FOREVER lol but learnin a lot.

Mi_Black_Pearl · 02-09-2008, 07:59 PM

yeah i wish id be able to use them as my reading assignments for english class.

> it'd be a lot more beneficial doing a summary for this both in an academic and personel level

holycow · 02-28-2008, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USNSTI

I'd recommend telling the dealer to keep their goddamned opinions to themselves and change the goddamned oil. Right now. Before I get angry.

HA.. <3 UNSTI

santacruz02 · 02-28-2008, 12:16 PM

What does the stock sti typically run at (temp wise) when it is heated up?
And for anyone with a numbered temp gauge with mild mods like added boost and what not have you increased temp?
Would a tbe make the car run cooler buy much?
Like would I benifit from 0w-20 just from around town driving?

***Neanderthal Racing*** · 02-28-2008, 01:42 PM

the conventional wisdom is to get at least a few thousand miles on the motor before switching to synthetic.

re: viscosity, there is at least one very good thread in here about viscosity, posted by someone advocating lower viscosity oils. my own opinion is that you should probably pick the lowest a viscosity that also makes the most seasonal/climatic sense and see if your car likes it. my oem motor hated mobil 1 in 5w30 and burned it like crazy. i switched to high end motul and it solved the problem. your results may vary.

i'm running dino 15w40 in my cobb pro stage1. i haven't decided on a switch to synthetic yet.

02-09-2008, 01:01 PM	#1
stiboost21 Junior STI Driver Car: 07 STi SWP Location: Medford, NJ Posts: 136 Join Date: Jul 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Synthetic Oil??? Hi guys, I went to the dealership today to make an appointment for an oil change. When I asked the guy at the counter to make sure they use synthetic oil on my 07 STi, they told me that they were having problems with synthetic oil and have been using regular oil. Has anyone else had this issue? If so, what would you recommend? Thanks alot, STiboost21. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

02-09-2008, 05:03 PM	#2
Blackfang Senior STI Driver Car: Silver 07 Legacy Location: Somewhere in the universe Posts: 346 Join Date: Mar 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Synthetic Oil??? I never have encountered a problem with Synthetic oil on a Subaru as long as it is changed every 3500-3750.

02-09-2008, 05:06 PM	#3
USNSTI Silver Member Car: OBP 07 STI Fav Mod: Boost gauge Location: San Diego Posts: 1,414 Join Date: Dec 2006 Trader Rating: (6)	Re: Synthetic Oil??? I'd recommend telling the dealer to keep their goddamned opinions to themselves and change the goddamned oil. Right now. Before I get angry.

02-09-2008, 05:09 PM	#4
*sbstiguy* SoCal STi Hitman Car: WRB 05 WRX STi Fav Mod: Hitting a bear on the freeway Location: Sunny Santa Barbara Posts: 209 Join Date: Jan 2008 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Synthetic Oil??? LOL, it IS an 07 afterall, its a pissy car. But yeah, if you want syn, then they should give you syn, if the engine blows its a new engine for you and proves the point they should get their crap together

02-09-2008, 06:01 PM	#5
LSE Professional STI Racer Car: 06 STI WRB Fav Mod: Defi Gauges Location: Bethlehem PA Posts: 849 Join Date: Dec 2004 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Synthetic Oil??? dude. remember that dealerships overcharge for their services. so rather than saying to you "go somewhere else because 99.99% of our people (who all they drive are forresters) don't got a clue what synth is, and so we don't carry it," they will tell you: "synth = bad for your car. We recommend you get our oil. bla bla blah." I've had 2 dealerships try to talk me into standard oil. They were rather small ones so I figured they just didn't bother offering it. Just find a dealer that does, or if you're lucky to have a garage, just change it yourself.

02-09-2008, 06:17 PM	#6
Mi_Black_Pearl Spec C Club Car: 07 OBP STI Fav Mod: turbocharger female warning sticker Location: Ocean State Posts: 1,582 Join Date: Aug 2007 Trader Rating: (6)	Re: Synthetic Oil??? yeah i just read another thread concerning this matter. basically, the problem comes from those who think that just because they'e running syn, that they can prolong the normal oil changes therefore throwing CELs and changing timings. you should be fine as long as you do the normal oil change intervals (at least every 3750 miles) when running syn. first change for me was at 2500 from the dealership who didnt opt me for an option of running syn...changed it myself at 5200 wit mobile1 syn and just now at 7300 trying out GC (euro 0w-30)...

02-09-2008, 06:28 PM	#7
howboutthemapplz Spec C Club Car: 05 OBP STi, 97Sentra Fav Mod: CAR LIFT & Protune! Location: Ohio Posts: 1,307 Join Date: Jan 2007 Trader Rating: (7)	Re: Synthetic Oil??? ive been changing mobil 1 every 5k... maybe ill start doing 3k... why 0w-30? what weight oil should you put in after you start modding, but with stock turbo?

02-09-2008, 07:13 PM	#8
Mi_Black_Pearl Spec C Club Car: 07 OBP STI Fav Mod: turbocharger female warning sticker Location: Ocean State Posts: 1,582 Join Date: Aug 2007 Trader Rating: (6)	Re: Synthetic Oil??? search is your friend > Everything you want to know about Motor Oil or Bob Is The Oil Guy * Last edited by Mi_Black_Pearl : 02-09-2008 at 07:19 PM.

02-09-2008, 07:40 PM	#10
Mi_Black_Pearl Spec C Club Car: 07 OBP STI Fav Mod: turbocharger female warning sticker Location: Ocean State Posts: 1,582 Join Date: Aug 2007 Trader Rating: (6)	Re: Synthetic Oil??? its really a complicated issue trying to figure out what's "best" really-ive spent hours trying to read through only some of the info provided and found that it just all depends ...everything cant be perfect in any given moment, in the end it will be

02-09-2008, 07:59 PM	#12
Mi_Black_Pearl Spec C Club Car: 07 OBP STI Fav Mod: turbocharger female warning sticker Location: Ocean State Posts: 1,582 Join Date: Aug 2007 Trader Rating: (6)	Re: Synthetic Oil??? yeah i wish id be able to use them as my reading assignments for english class. > it'd be a lot more beneficial doing a summary for this both in an academic and personel level

02-28-2008, 12:16 PM	#14
santacruz02 Junior STI Driver Car: Blue 06 Sti Location: NJ Posts: 108 Join Date: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Re: Synthetic Oil??? What does the stock sti typically run at (temp wise) when it is heated up? And for anyone with a numbered temp gauge with mild mods like added boost and what not have you increased temp? Would a tbe make the car run cooler buy much? Like would I benifit from 0w-20 just from around town driving?

02-28-2008, 01:42 PM	#15
*Neanderthal Racing* GT R US Car: CUTN EDG project Fav Mod: $20. mudflaps from auto zone Location: my cave Posts: 5,842 Join Date: Dec 2003 Trader Rating: (1)	Re: Synthetic Oil??? the conventional wisdom is to get at least a few thousand miles on the motor before switching to synthetic. re: viscosity, there is at least one very good thread in here about viscosity, posted by someone advocating lower viscosity oils. my own opinion is that you should probably pick the lowest a viscosity that also makes the most seasonal/climatic sense and see if your car likes it. my oem motor hated mobil 1 in 5w30 and burned it like crazy. i switched to high end motul and it solved the problem. your results may vary. i'm running dino 15w40 in my cobb pro stage1. i haven't decided on a switch to synthetic yet. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.