this is what happens when you panic during the onset of oversteer...OUCH

STI_818 · 03-03-2007, 12:53 PM

sorry if this is a repost...as always, searched but couldnt find anything..

looks like his tail started to come out and he totally miscalculated/paniced...but ya, this sucks

http://videos.streetfire.net/categor...e30069c52a.htm

straightouttajersey · 03-03-2007, 12:55 PM

yup old video...

***Wes*** · 03-03-2007, 01:01 PM

seen it

STI_818 · 03-03-2007, 01:02 PM

lol...great...sorry guys.. ^^^^ i know youve prolly seen it since i saw it on the same page as the video you posted about people giving us a bad name

jutes85 · 03-03-2007, 01:16 PM

yep old. Although i bet that motorcycle freaked him out when he just started the slide....rest is history.

SirMyztiq · 03-03-2007, 01:21 PM

I recently got in an accident for not knowing WTF to do when you lose control like that

****ed up my back wheel pretty damn good. Ripped it right off the strut.

Now...any advice?

I know you are always supposed to go WITH the "turn" but I'm not sure.

lidrew · 03-03-2007, 01:39 PM

yeah, I'm just getting used to my STi. I came from a Z which is RWD and if you took a turn to fast, you would oversteer and the rear would start coming out and you could just let off and slightly counter steer the slide back into control. I'm not too sure about this awd.

STI_818 · 03-03-2007, 01:46 PM

^^play gran turismo

lol jk...well kinda, not to make it seem like gran turismo replaces real life experiences, but i think it has saved me many times

now, correct me (and dont get mad) if im wrong but i think what the guy in the video may have done is quickly let off the gas and countersteer way too quickly (due to panic) resulting in his car going to opposite direction of the turn...its hard for me to explain what you actually have to do in that situation...i have been in similar situations many times but have always gotten out of them. i just go with the feel of the car...this one time i was going slightly uphill into a sharp bend, on and off the throttle (in my old wrx), my tail started to whip out, and i slightly countersteered while still going on and off throttle until the end to maintain the position of my car...at the end i gave it more gas to get my car back into a straight line...i think...all i know is, it was a very controlled drift/powerslide across that bend, and i did not crash lol. awd is great

so any other concrete advice as to what you SHOULD do?

STI_818 · 03-03-2007, 01:52 PM

i dunno, the more i think about it, i think the guy in the video could have kept his foot on the gas, countersteered slightly, and then steered his car back into the turn since it is awd.....

all i know is, i might get flamed really soon

jutes85 · 03-03-2007, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STI_818

so any other concrete advice as to what you SHOULD do?

Don't panic, slowly let the foot off the gas pedal and let the car naturally correct itself. If you do quick movements or brake, you will fly off the cliff and DIE.

If if snows in the area, practice drifting around corners (not in residential areas or where there are other cars) and get a feel for the car.

Zate · 03-03-2007, 02:50 PM

its called lift off over steer and the subarus are pretty bad with it.

best advice, dont lift off ... and dont apply the brakes solidly.. the best advice is to point the front wheels where you want to go and give it a little gas.. seems really alien to do that but with AWD the front will pull you out so to speak. Scared me the first time i experienced it aswell.. just dont brake or lift off suddenly.

If point and sqiurt seems too alien, then just turning into the slide (ie a little counter steer) and a slight reduction in speed via less throttle and light braking works aswell .. not as well as point and stomp for me though.

RAS_STI · 03-03-2007, 06:39 PM

another safe STI driver i see....

he should be running in a "BEGINNER" group at his local track. that way he could learn why/how he gets in that position, and more importantly, how to get through it. you can't practice that in the canyons. it's like practicing your golf game, on the course. that's what the range is for.

i'm glad he didn't kill that motorcycle guy. i wonder if he sent that vid to his insurance company.

sumfoo1 · 03-03-2007, 09:34 PM

pfft ..

slide dccd forward and ****ing romp on it.
teach the car what wheels need to be in front.

no seriously though... an awd car should catch itself if you stay in it unless you've completely ****ed up the suspension.

**tyler_sti** · 03-03-2007, 09:39 PM

The whole freakin matter could have been avoided if he simply didn't go over the lane dividers. What a stupid move in daylight canyon, with outher motorist!!

zedman86 · 03-03-2007, 10:52 PM

yeah point and gas it a bit. i took at turn at a light quickly but not crazy fast, i let off the gas and turned and there went the rear end since there was a wet spot right in the middle in one spot all i did was steered and gave it a bit of gas.....best drift evar!!!! even though i didnt mean to. with awd its always a good idea to keep your foot on the gas as much as possible.

03-03-2007, 12:53 PM	#1
STI_818 Senior STI Driver Car: 07 STi Fav Mod: upgrade from my WRX muhaha Location: Glendale, CA Posts: 375 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	this is what happens when you panic during the onset of oversteer...OUCH sorry if this is a repost...as always, searched but couldnt find anything.. looks like his tail started to come out and he totally miscalculated/paniced...but ya, this sucks http://videos.streetfire.net/categor...e30069c52a.htm This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

03-03-2007, 10:52 PM	#15
zedman86 Professional STI Racer Car: 07 xterra for now Location: San Francisco Posts: 705 IWSTI Addict since: Aug 2005 Trader Rating: (2)	yeah point and gas it a bit. i took at turn at a light quickly but not crazy fast, i let off the gas and turned and there went the rear end since there was a wet spot right in the middle in one spot all i did was steered and gave it a bit of gas.....best drift evar!!!! even though i didnt mean to. with awd its always a good idea to keep your foot on the gas as much as possible. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

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03-03-2007, 12:55 PM	#2
straightouttajersey Spec C Club Car: 05 STi Posts: 1,462 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	yup old video...

03-03-2007, 01:01 PM	#3
*Wes* I'm Jim Halpert Car: 06 WRB STI Fav Mod: EWG Location: Irvine, Ca Posts: 6,895 IWSTI Addict since: Apr 2006 Trader Rating: (9)	seen it

03-03-2007, 01:02 PM	#4
STI_818 Senior STI Driver Car: 07 STi Fav Mod: upgrade from my WRX muhaha Location: Glendale, CA Posts: 375 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	lol...great...sorry guys.. ^^^^ i know youve prolly seen it since i saw it on the same page as the video you posted about people giving us a bad name

03-03-2007, 01:16 PM	#5
jutes85 Silver Member Car: 2006 OBP STi Fav Mod: Snow Location: Alberta Posts: 1,539 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2006 Trader Rating: (7)	yep old. Although i bet that motorcycle freaked him out when he just started the slide....rest is history.

03-03-2007, 01:21 PM	#6
SirMyztiq Junior STI Driver Car: 05 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Exhaust and intakes! Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 166 IWSTI Addict since: Oct 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	I recently got in an accident for not knowing WTF to do when you lose control like that ****ed up my back wheel pretty damn good. Ripped it right off the strut. Now...any advice? I know you are always supposed to go WITH the "turn" but I'm not sure.

03-03-2007, 01:39 PM	#7
lidrew Professional STI Racer Posts: 649 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	yeah, I'm just getting used to my STi. I came from a Z which is RWD and if you took a turn to fast, you would oversteer and the rear would start coming out and you could just let off and slightly counter steer the slide back into control. I'm not too sure about this awd.

03-03-2007, 01:46 PM	#8
STI_818 Senior STI Driver Car: 07 STi Fav Mod: upgrade from my WRX muhaha Location: Glendale, CA Posts: 375 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	^^play gran turismo lol jk...well kinda, not to make it seem like gran turismo replaces real life experiences, but i think it has saved me many times now, correct me (and dont get mad) if im wrong but i think what the guy in the video may have done is quickly let off the gas and countersteer way too quickly (due to panic) resulting in his car going to opposite direction of the turn...its hard for me to explain what you actually have to do in that situation...i have been in similar situations many times but have always gotten out of them. i just go with the feel of the car...this one time i was going slightly uphill into a sharp bend, on and off the throttle (in my old wrx), my tail started to whip out, and i slightly countersteered while still going on and off throttle until the end to maintain the position of my car...at the end i gave it more gas to get my car back into a straight line...i think...all i know is, it was a very controlled drift/powerslide across that bend, and i did not crash lol. awd is great so any other concrete advice as to what you SHOULD do?

03-03-2007, 01:52 PM	#9
STI_818 Senior STI Driver Car: 07 STi Fav Mod: upgrade from my WRX muhaha Location: Glendale, CA Posts: 375 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2007 Trader Rating: (0)	i dunno, the more i think about it, i think the guy in the video could have kept his foot on the gas, countersteered slightly, and then steered his car back into the turn since it is awd..... all i know is, i might get flamed really soon

03-03-2007, 02:50 PM	#11
Zate Amateur STI Driver Posts: 11 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	its called lift off over steer and the subarus are pretty bad with it. best advice, dont lift off ... and dont apply the brakes solidly.. the best advice is to point the front wheels where you want to go and give it a little gas.. seems really alien to do that but with AWD the front will pull you out so to speak. Scared me the first time i experienced it aswell.. just dont brake or lift off suddenly. If point and sqiurt seems too alien, then just turning into the slide (ie a little counter steer) and a slight reduction in speed via less throttle and light braking works aswell .. not as well as point and stomp for me though.

03-03-2007, 06:39 PM	#12
RAS_STI The Next Petter Solberg Car: 05 STI - Cobb Stg 2 Fav Mod: Curb Feelers (driver side) Location: Half a lap ahead of you. Posts: 860 IWSTI Addict since: Nov 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	another safe STI driver i see.... he should be running in a "BEGINNER" group at his local track. that way he could learn why/how he gets in that position, and more importantly, how to get through it. you can't practice that in the canyons. it's like practicing your golf game, on the course. that's what the range is for. i'm glad he didn't kill that motorcycle guy. i wonder if he sent that vid to his insurance company.

03-03-2007, 09:34 PM	#13
sumfoo1 Junior STI Driver Posts: 51 IWSTI Addict since: Jun 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	pfft .. slide dccd forward and **ing romp on it. teach the car what wheels need to be in front. no seriously though... an awd car should catch itself if you stay in it unless you've completely **ed up the suspension.

03-03-2007, 09:39 PM	#14
tyler_sti Gold Member Car: '07 CMG STI Fav Mod: Not knowing how to "spell" hah Location: los angeles Posts: 4,070 IWSTI Addict since: Aug 2006 Trader Rating: (16)	The whole freakin matter could have been avoided if he simply didn't go over the lane dividers. What a stupid move in daylight canyon, with outher motorist!!