Heel & Toe + Double Clutching with Gary Sheehan ;) - Page 2

dannyblaze_07 · 07-13-2006, 12:59 AM

i wanna see some footage!

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Originally Posted by Garo666

lol yea dosnt every one wish hahaha . . . im gona try to do it like him 2morow . . . hahah

***evilSTi7*** · 07-13-2006, 05:56 AM

the best way to practice it is just sit in your car while its off. i would start with just a regular heel and toe and then once you have that down try to throw the double clutching in there. that system worked the best for me.

lokutus1 · 07-13-2006, 07:22 AM

is he double clutching while downshifting in the vid or just doing heel toe? he's doing it so fast that i can't even tell. i need to work on my skillz.

***Wes*** · 07-13-2006, 07:49 AM

wow thats insane! i wish i was that good

sebtarta · 07-13-2006, 07:54 AM

he does both at the same time

double cluthing while rev matching and down shifting at the same time.

Pretty good and quik. Braking it down......

Approach corner.....

Apply Break
Apply Clutch
Shift to Neutral
Rev match
Apply Clutch
Downshift
release brake
Accelerate

+ practice x 10000000^10000000 = As close to Gary Sheehan

lokutus1 · 07-13-2006, 07:58 AM

yeah, that's a lot to do in such a short amount of time. it's amazing. he releases the clutch after shifting to neutral and before the rev match, correct?

sebtarta · 07-13-2006, 08:05 AM

yep
basically he puts the car in neutral, then releases the clutch, revs match, clutch in downshift and goes on.....

Why do this, i dont understand. What is the difference when you do this than when just keeping the clutch down and rev matching.

mikefoy6 · 07-13-2006, 08:07 AM

(puts on flamesuit)

I dont really see what the point of the double clutch is, will somebody explain. Why not just hold it down, is there a purpose for pumping it. When you push in the cluch you effectivly take the car out of gear, why do you let out the cluch and then push it back in just to move the shifter, why dont you just put it into the gear you want on the intial cluch push?

be nice...

-mike

sebtarta · 07-13-2006, 08:16 AM

The double clutching is mainly for cars without synchros. If you do not double clutch no a truck for example its the nice noise of the gears crunching each other.

Its great watching it, but is it necessary

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edit just found this
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Does double-clutching do any good if you have a synchromesh box? Yes, it
makes the synchros work less hard than they were designed to, so they will
last longer. The synchros will make up for any errors.

link -> http://www.g-speed.com/pbh/double-clutch.html

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=567177

lokutus1 · 07-13-2006, 08:32 AM

how long would the synchros need to last on a wrc car? i know they basically put new engines into f1 cars after every race, so couldn't they just replace the synchros after each stage or no?

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07-13-2006, 05:56 AM	#12
*evilSTi7* The Hoff Fan Club, member #001 Feedback Score: 4 reviews Car: 05 WRB/Gold My Stuff: Subaru Parts Fav Mod: Hood Scoop Homer Location: Where ever The Hoff is! Posts: 10,550 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2004	the best way to practice it is just sit in your car while its off. i would start with just a regular heel and toe and then once you have that down try to throw the double clutching in there. that system worked the best for me.

07-13-2006, 07:22 AM	#13
lokutus1 Spec C Club Feedback Score: 11 reviews Car: 05 WRB WRX STi Fav Mod: FYI, I'm a dude Location: Burlington, MA Posts: 2,489 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2005	is he double clutching while downshifting in the vid or just doing heel toe? he's doing it so fast that i can't even tell. i need to work on my skillz.

07-13-2006, 07:49 AM	#14
*Wes* I'm Jim Halpert Feedback Score: 9 reviews Car: 06 WRB STI My Stuff: Subaru Parts Fav Mod: EWG Location: Irvine, Ca Posts: 7,217 IWSTI Addict since: Apr 2006	wow thats insane! i wish i was that good

07-13-2006, 07:54 AM	#15
sebtarta Spec C Club Feedback Score: 7 reviews Car: Waiting for the STI Fav Mod: Driving My Car Location: I Don't Know Posts: 1,650 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2005	he does both at the same time double cluthing while rev matching and down shifting at the same time. Pretty good and quik. Braking it down...... Approach corner..... Apply Break Apply Clutch Shift to Neutral Rev match Apply Clutch Downshift release brake Accelerate + practice x 10000000^10000000 = As close to Gary Sheehan

07-13-2006, 07:58 AM	#16
lokutus1 Spec C Club Feedback Score: 11 reviews Car: 05 WRB WRX STi Fav Mod: FYI, I'm a dude Location: Burlington, MA Posts: 2,489 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2005	yeah, that's a lot to do in such a short amount of time. it's amazing. he releases the clutch after shifting to neutral and before the rev match, correct?

07-13-2006, 08:05 AM	#17
sebtarta Spec C Club Feedback Score: 7 reviews Car: Waiting for the STI Fav Mod: Driving My Car Location: I Don't Know Posts: 1,650 IWSTI Addict since: Sep 2005	yep basically he puts the car in neutral, then releases the clutch, revs match, clutch in downshift and goes on..... Why do this, i dont understand. What is the difference when you do this than when just keeping the clutch down and rev matching.

07-13-2006, 08:07 AM	#18
mikefoy6 Amateur STI Driver Feedback Score: 1 reviews Car: 04 Subaru WRX STi Location: Thief River Falls, MN Posts: 45 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2006	(puts on flamesuit) I dont really see what the point of the double clutch is, will somebody explain. Why not just hold it down, is there a purpose for pumping it. When you push in the cluch you effectivly take the car out of gear, why do you let out the cluch and then push it back in just to move the shifter, why dont you just put it into the gear you want on the intial cluch push? be nice... -mike

07-13-2006, 08:32 AM	#20
lokutus1 Spec C Club Feedback Score: 11 reviews Car: 05 WRB WRX STi Fav Mod: FYI, I'm a dude Location: Burlington, MA Posts: 2,489 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2005	how long would the synchros need to last on a wrc car? i know they basically put new engines into f1 cars after every race, so couldn't they just replace the synchros after each stage or no?