[2000gt4.6]

Originally Posted by teamjordan23

Do you know if the guy did any more work to his STI (upgraded turbo, etc)? That would be an interesting race.

Well it has only been a couple weeks

I don't even know his name. I asked him to check out the vid once I did the editing and to join the mustangforums, but i never saw him/heard from him again.

He was talking about doing a tune and some sort of specific name (dunno, if you mention It I will recognise it) CAI setup. But I don't think that is gonna be enough

[Rootus]

Earlier this year I watched a number of SCCA races at our local track (Portland International Raceway). I still remember the one race where I saw a Evo, STi, and Camaro racing in a pack together. The first lap, it was that order. A few laps later, it became STI, Evo, Camaro. Then STi, Camaro, Evo. And not long before the end of the race, it was Camaro, STi, Evo. And it wasn't the Camaro making time in the straights -- the Evo pulled in the straights. The Camaro was wicked in the corners, and was really giving the two AWD cars a run.

My point ... any of the three cars can excel in drag racing or road racing, or even autocross (ask RainMaker, who now has an 06 STI, how well he used to do in his Camaro...).

Also, ... who compares Mustang GT's to STI's anyway? For the price point, it seems to make more sense to compare the STI to the Cobra -- they cost almost exactly the same.

(and for what it's worth, with way under a grand in mods my Cobra turned 12.28@118 on street tires... how much money would it take to get my STI to do the same? How about a Mustang GT?)

They're all nice cars, and they all have something they're particularly good at. If I still wanted straightline performance above all else, I would not have sold my '03 Cobra . Twisties are fun too, and that is where the STI excels. There are a LOT of cars that can give it a good run (or spank it) in a street race from anything other than a dig (and most STI owners that I've seen, at least around here, are unwilling to do a balls out AWD launch, and then the STI is pretty slow...).

Dave

[o2sys]

is it me or did the guy who spoke in the end saying "ah man..." sound like Gonzo?

[2000gt4.6]

Originally Posted by o2sys

is it me or did the guy who spoke in the end saying "ah man..." sound like Gonzo?

Rofl don't make fun of redbone, he was just excited. Used to own a 5.0 and that is the first real race he has been in (at least in car) in a long time

[rzezeski]

Originally Posted by Rootus

Also, ... who compares Mustang GT's to STI's anyway? For the price point, it seems to make more sense to compare the STI to the Cobra -- they cost almost exactly the same.

(and for what it's worth, with way under a grand in mods my Cobra turned 12.28@118 on street tires... how much money would it take to get my STI to do the same? How about a Mustang GT?)

Dave

These are both good points, the best ones yet in this whole thread. the well my car only costed XXX and for XXX more I can have YYY power while your car costed AAA and only has BBB power. It's a retarted argument because for dirt cheap you could get an old CRX and slap a b20/trubo setup in it. I choose a CRX as an example not because i'm a Honda guy (never owned one in my life) but because it's always that type of car that most people are afraid to say they got beat by. Yea it feels embarrising to get beat by a damn near 20 year old Honda that looks like a trash can and has less than half cyclindars and half the displacement. But it can be done and for way less than the price of the majority of our cars.

If you go by the price argument this would mean it is illogical to buy a Porsche GT 2. i dunno about you but I could care less if your Mustang, Camaro, STi, RX7, Supra, or even Civic can beat my Porsche because i'm driving a god damn Porsche. The same reasoning applies here. You're on a STi entusiasts forum, and most of us love our cars. That's great that your (and when I say "your" I mean everyone in this thread) other model type of car can beat my/his/her STi, but that doesn't make it a "better" car. It's all opinion and choice of preference. Personally I hate Mustangs. Don't get me wrong I know they can move like stink (especially Cobras), but I just think they look like ass, have a cheap interior, and WAY TOO many people own them. I feel this way about a lot of cars, this is not a Mustang specific thing, and it's definately not jealously cause I just could have easily bought a Mustang and supercharged it as the thread starter has proven. Vice-versa a lot of f-body owners feel the same way about imports. They often find them ugly, too flashy maybe, sound cheap and "farty", etc. That's why you picked your V-8, because you like the instant torque, noise, and all that.

Just remember your on a STi forum. Admitting that another car has balls and liking it are 2 different things. I know a lot of Mustangs out there could hand me my ass on a platter with a side of chips, but at the end of the days I still don't like the mustang one bit and am glad/happy I own my STi. Just because your car can roll doesn't mean we have to like it. Good example for you guys would be the 2JZ-GTE Supra. Most single turbo Supras will roll all over a Cobra (keep in mind i'm being general here), but that doesn't mean the Cobra owner has to like the Supra.

Even better example...The Yankees are possibly the best franchise to ever exist. But I still say F**K the Yankees!


Anyways, sorry for the long post and making everyone read so much on a Friday. I just think this distinction needs to be made clear. Point being, respect and fondness are two different things.

[teamjordan23]

Dont be talkin about my Yankees like that. Let me guess a Red Sox fan.






J/K

I understand what your talkin about though.

[sqad]

Originally Posted by rzezeski

Just because your car can roll doesn't mean we have to like it. Good example for you guys would be the 2JZ-GTE Supra. Most single turbo Supras will roll all over a Cobra (keep in mind i'm being general here), but that doesn't mean the Cobra owner has to like the Supra.

ding ding ding

we have a winner..... F-bodys suck .... not my cup of tea, get over it

[rzezeski]

Originally Posted by teamjordan23

Dont be talkin about my Yankees like that. Let me guess a Red Sox fan.






J/K

I understand what your talkin about though.

Even worse, I'm an Orioles fan . The offices I work at are actually located in the warehouse behind Camden Yards .

[2000gt4.6]

I just wanted to point out that I never made the arguement that you cannot compare the two cars, OR that my car was better because I spent less money on it.

My only feeling was that I personally felt pretty good that my car could keep up with a much more expensive (and much faster stock) car than mine. It shows me that all my efforts have made a difference.

[drdome99]

Originally Posted by 98LS1

I just get tired of the guys with AWD thinking it's superior, in well, anything..... I guess it's awesome in the snow.

You are welcome to try and follow me on a mountain run anytime you want. I'll give you mapquest and see you at the end You sound just like my buddy with an '03 cobra which just about pulls the front wheels off the ground when his slicks are on. He said everything you are saying until he tried to follow me on a back road to my house with multiple off-camber turns and 90s. hehe

[teamjordan23]

Originally Posted by drdome99

You are welcome to try and follow me on a mountain run anytime you want. I'll give you mapquest and see you at the end

Are you setting up a challenge for him? That would be entertaining.

[drdome99]

If that thing is as beastly as he says I doubt we would ever see that challenge, and I wouldn't blame him lol.

[98LS1]

Eh, it runs alright...in a straight line. That's what I made it for. Hell, it does have 4" wheels up front. If I had wanted to make it for turning, I would have. RWD dominates all the circuits though, if you were implying that they don't....well, maybe not the ones that go offroad.

[Digitalfiend]

Originally Posted by 98LS1

Eh, it runs alright...in a straight line. That's what I made it for. Hell, it does have 4" wheels up front. If I had wanted to make it for turning, I would have. RWD dominates all the circuits though, if you were implying that they don't....well, maybe not the ones that go offroad.

Wow, RWD dominates all circuits, huh? Which cars are tearing up the SCCA T2 division right now? STi. Why was Audi's AWD Quattro system banned from racing circuits? It was dominating the RWD cars. There is no question that RWD is a great platform but a properly configured AWD car will dominate on a circuit. Audi proved that over and over.

[2000gt4.6]

Originally Posted by drdome99

If that thing is as beastly as he says I doubt we would ever see that challenge, and I wouldn't blame him lol.

98 is running your basic boltons/cam only LS1. 375 RWHP on the motor alone. Of course you would not use nitrous on the twistys, but he is making 500 WHP on nitrous.

Its not a canyon carver, but I bet ya can't keep up on the strip BTW, the car is MUCH lighter than a 03 cobra, so comparing wheel horsepower in the two cars is kinda moot.

What are you running now 98, low 11s??