[98LS1]

Originally Posted by 2000gt4.6

Burn off the tires until they smoke alot.

My nittos are not the greatest d/rs out there, but they also arn't suicide in the rain (alot are), and they last about 10K miles (alot last 4) if I take it easy. You really need to heat em up to hook well on the street.

I really really needed to heat my tires that night, but I am not sure anything could have overcome the frozen street.

We simply didn't have time though. I will not race on that street again. It is pretty straight, but there is a hill at the end, and occasional traffic. We had to roll out of the parking lot, stop, and then go.

Yea, you really have to get Nitto's burning before they'll hook.

Your **** runs out man. Get another video for us, I guess to further prove your point. As if one wasn't enough. It's gonna be dangerous when you go F/I.

[silver arrow]

Originally Posted by srascal

Same basic chassis though. Im not trying to argue with you, just putting it out there for some of the more closedminded people here who cant look past their sti's. I think you understand where im coming from.

I'm not one of them. I love all cool cars including American cars that are cool. I came very close to buying a GTO but decided the STi would be a better ax platform. If I was just buying a daily driver the GTO would have had one hell of a car. I am also thinking of puting together an AI car with Maximum Motorsports full road racing suspension. Can't see myself in a danty Spec Miata, though they are a great car and offer great racing. Hard to ingnore the roar of a big V8. I still contend that the FC500R is more than a few basic changes, but I don't want to argue.

[srascal]

Yea youre right, but at the end of the day its still a mustang.

I was in the same boat as you about a year ago. I was real close to buying a spec miata, and at the last second backed out. Instead i picked up an 01 mustang gt that was a bondurant school car. It only had 20 hours on it, and lets just say it was the buy of the century. Thanks ebay!

Anyways the car already had a fire system, fuel cell, 6pt cage, recaro pole positions, and countless upgrades to the suspension/drivetrain, basically everything i needed.

I dont know how serious you are about it, or if you would be intrested in a car like this at all, but if you are watch ebay cause every once in a while one pops up, and i personally dont think you can buy a better track prepped car for the price.

[2000gt4.6]

I guess the rerace is gonna have to wait. Ordered the SQ vortech kit today 400+ RWHP here we come!!

[teamjordan23]

Originally Posted by 2000gt4.6

I guess the rerace is gonna have to wait. Ordered the SQ vortech kit today 400+ RWHP here we come!!

Do you know if the guy did any more work to his STI (upgraded turbo, etc)? That would be an interesting race.

[2000gt4.6]

Originally Posted by teamjordan23

Do you know if the guy did any more work to his STI (upgraded turbo, etc)? That would be an interesting race.

Well it has only been a couple weeks

I don't even know his name. I asked him to check out the vid once I did the editing and to join the mustangforums, but i never saw him/heard from him again.

He was talking about doing a tune and some sort of specific name (dunno, if you mention It I will recognise it) CAI setup. But I don't think that is gonna be enough

[Rootus]

Earlier this year I watched a number of SCCA races at our local track (Portland International Raceway). I still remember the one race where I saw a Evo, STi, and Camaro racing in a pack together. The first lap, it was that order. A few laps later, it became STI, Evo, Camaro. Then STi, Camaro, Evo. And not long before the end of the race, it was Camaro, STi, Evo. And it wasn't the Camaro making time in the straights -- the Evo pulled in the straights. The Camaro was wicked in the corners, and was really giving the two AWD cars a run.

My point ... any of the three cars can excel in drag racing or road racing, or even autocross (ask RainMaker, who now has an 06 STI, how well he used to do in his Camaro...).

Also, ... who compares Mustang GT's to STI's anyway? For the price point, it seems to make more sense to compare the STI to the Cobra -- they cost almost exactly the same.

(and for what it's worth, with way under a grand in mods my Cobra turned 12.28@118 on street tires... how much money would it take to get my STI to do the same? How about a Mustang GT?)

They're all nice cars, and they all have something they're particularly good at. If I still wanted straightline performance above all else, I would not have sold my '03 Cobra . Twisties are fun too, and that is where the STI excels. There are a LOT of cars that can give it a good run (or spank it) in a street race from anything other than a dig (and most STI owners that I've seen, at least around here, are unwilling to do a balls out AWD launch, and then the STI is pretty slow...).

Dave

[o2sys]

is it me or did the guy who spoke in the end saying "ah man..." sound like Gonzo?

[2000gt4.6]

Originally Posted by o2sys

is it me or did the guy who spoke in the end saying "ah man..." sound like Gonzo?

Rofl don't make fun of redbone, he was just excited. Used to own a 5.0 and that is the first real race he has been in (at least in car) in a long time

[rzezeski]

Originally Posted by Rootus

Also, ... who compares Mustang GT's to STI's anyway? For the price point, it seems to make more sense to compare the STI to the Cobra -- they cost almost exactly the same.

(and for what it's worth, with way under a grand in mods my Cobra turned 12.28@118 on street tires... how much money would it take to get my STI to do the same? How about a Mustang GT?)

Dave

These are both good points, the best ones yet in this whole thread. the well my car only costed XXX and for XXX more I can have YYY power while your car costed AAA and only has BBB power. It's a retarted argument because for dirt cheap you could get an old CRX and slap a b20/trubo setup in it. I choose a CRX as an example not because i'm a Honda guy (never owned one in my life) but because it's always that type of car that most people are afraid to say they got beat by. Yea it feels embarrising to get beat by a damn near 20 year old Honda that looks like a trash can and has less than half cyclindars and half the displacement. But it can be done and for way less than the price of the majority of our cars.

If you go by the price argument this would mean it is illogical to buy a Porsche GT 2. i dunno about you but I could care less if your Mustang, Camaro, STi, RX7, Supra, or even Civic can beat my Porsche because i'm driving a god damn Porsche. The same reasoning applies here. You're on a STi entusiasts forum, and most of us love our cars. That's great that your (and when I say "your" I mean everyone in this thread) other model type of car can beat my/his/her STi, but that doesn't make it a "better" car. It's all opinion and choice of preference. Personally I hate Mustangs. Don't get me wrong I know they can move like stink (especially Cobras), but I just think they look like ***, have a cheap interior, and WAY TOO many people own them. I feel this way about a lot of cars, this is not a Mustang specific thing, and it's definately not jealously cause I just could have easily bought a Mustang and supercharged it as the thread starter has proven. Vice-versa a lot of f-body owners feel the same way about imports. They often find them ugly, too flashy maybe, sound cheap and "farty", etc. That's why you picked your V-8, because you like the instant torque, noise, and all that.

Just remember your on a STi forum. Admitting that another car has balls and liking it are 2 different things. I know a lot of Mustangs out there could hand me my *** on a platter with a side of chips, but at the end of the days I still don't like the mustang one bit and am glad/happy I own my STi. Just because your car can roll doesn't mean we have to like it. Good example for you guys would be the 2JZ-GTE Supra. Most single turbo Supras will roll all over a Cobra (keep in mind i'm being general here), but that doesn't mean the Cobra owner has to like the Supra.

Even better example...The Yankees are possibly the best franchise to ever exist. But I still say F**K the Yankees!


Anyways, sorry for the long post and making everyone read so much on a Friday. I just think this distinction needs to be made clear. Point being, respect and fondness are two different things.