Boosted Scion Vs. Sti - Page 3

**Nachos Libres** · 02-11-2006, 05:03 PM

Wow, all it takes is a video to start some personal attacks. Let me say this:

Anymore personal attacks will lead to a warning and possible ban. Just say your peace about the video if you must but I don't want to see any personal attacks on other members by anyone.

And that's great the Scion can do that. I just browsed the Scion forums and saw where the vendor posted this vid and then later on the guy in the STi posted and said he was trying to race. The vendor claims the Scion is pushing 400 whp (I think he said whp) on stock block, pump gas, and alky injection.

And for all of those that bought the STi does it really matter if a Scion can beat you? If they can, great for them. I respect a Scion that can do that but they still aren't my cup of tea.

Swine · 02-11-2006, 05:05 PM

Guys calm down.

If you want to feel good about something, atleast you can feel good that the Tc shown is on the upper echelon of its power application. You can also almost garuntee that she is going to pop her top with-in 10k miles.

Oh yeah, and all the Toyota supplied S/C kits run like 7 or 9psi tops and make like 200whp tops.

Good race, win for the TC.

'05 STi · 02-11-2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SVT Amateur

Wow, all it takes is a video to start some personal attacks. Let me say this:

Anymore personal attacks will lead to a warning and possible ban. Just say your peace about the video if you must but I don't want to see any personal attacks on other members by anyone.

And that's great the Scion can do that. I just browsed the Scion forums and saw where the vendor posted this vid and then later on the guy in the STi posted and said he was trying to race. The vendor claims the Scion is pushing 400 whp (I think he said whp) on stock block, pump gas, and alky injection.

And for all of those that bought the STi does it really matter if a Scion can beat you? If they can, great for them. I respect a Scion that can do that but they still aren't my cup of tea.

Exactly. Hats off to the Scion, but I still wouldn't own one.

I guess telling people to "quit making excuses for an STi's loss" really seems to get under peoples' skin.

BluSTi · 02-11-2006, 05:07 PM

I'd like a 400hp Xb, that would be t!ts in my book!! Also, I think if you make a N.A. engine forced induction, then that constitutes as heavily modified. Forced to more forced, not heavily modified, since the majority of the parts were already there. Anyway, that Scion looks hella good too.

'05 STi · 02-11-2006, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Swine

Guys calm down.

If you want to feel good about something, atleast you can feel good that the Tc shown is on the upper echelon of its power application. You can also almost garuntee that she is going to pop her top with-in 10k miles.

Oh yeah, and all the Toyota supplied S/C kits run like 7 or 9psi tops and make like 200whp tops.

Good race, win for the TC.

I think Scion's supercharger kit will raise hp to around 220 hp.

That car did not sound good. It clearly sounded very unhealthy.

Swine · 02-11-2006, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by '05 STi

I think Scion's supercharger kit will raise hp to around 220 hp.

That car did not sound good. It clearly sounded very unhealthy.

220 crank hp is less then 200whp. Just got done talking with my Tc friend...he says they make around 190-200whp.

With intake header and exhuast they make around 215 whp. With all of the above plus pulley they make around 230whp.

'05 STi · 02-11-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Swine

220 crank hp is less then 200whp. Just got done talking with my Tc friend...he says they make around 190-200whp.

That's still not bad for a car that weighs about 2800-2900 lbs. Keep in mind that an STi weighs about 300 lbs more and makes about 230 whp in stock trim.

Swine · 02-11-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by '05 STi

That's still not bad for a car that weighs about 2800-2900 lbs. Keep in mind that an STi weighs about 300 lbs more and makes about 230 whp in stock trim.

Did i say it was bad?!? Jesus i like tc's.

*Edit-and in no way was i comparing it to the sti.

91TB78 · 02-11-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by '05 STi

News flash. An N/A car will run fine with a supercharger or turbo. Boost doesn't kill motors; detonation does. A buddy of mine has a 1998 TransAm that's running 9lbs of boost (with intercooler) and his car has over 130,000 miles on it. He's been doing it since his car had 20,000 miles on it.

I think he meant that it takes at least tuning, if not more like injectors, pump, etc, etc. Not just a turbo and an exhaust will work on a NA car alone...some tuning needs to be done.

'05 STi · 02-11-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Swine

Did i say it was bad?!? Jesus i like tc's.

*Edit-and in no way was i comparing it to the sti.

I never said that you said it was bad. I WAS comparing it to an STi. Isn't that what this thread is about? An STi Vs. a Scion?

'05 STi · 02-11-2006, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 91TB78

I think he meant that it takes at least tuning, if not more like injectors, pump, etc, etc. Not just a turbo and an exhaust will work on a NA car alone...some tuning needs to be done.

No doubt! It sounds as if that car didn't have any tuning whatsoever. It sounded as if that Scion just had the turbo strapped on, and the guy just went out driving.

I wouldn't doubt if that motor has already flipped its lid....

91TB78 · 02-11-2006, 05:21 PM

Another thing to think about guys is different gearing between the two cars and the STi's higher drivetrain losses.

2 thumbs up if the tC won...the STi isn't the fastest car in the world.

Swine · 02-11-2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 91TB78

the STi isn't the fastest car in the world.

WHAT?!

Chadb · 02-11-2006, 05:25 PM

Maybe they should go on that show PINKS. Then we'll really see who has the fast car. (Lose the race lose your car.)

'05 STi · 02-11-2006, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 91TB78

Another thing to think about guys is different gearing between the two cars and the STi's higher drivetrain losses.

2 thumbs up if the tC won...the STi isn't the fastest car in the world.

I guess I should've mentioned the drivetrain loss with the STi, but I figured I made that clear when I made mention that the STi weighed about 300 lbs more than the Scion and was making 230 whp compared to the Scion's 200 whp.

+1 on the STi not being the fastest car on the road, but there seems to be a lot of denial floating around......Some people don't know where the fantasy ends and the reality begins.

02-11-2006, 05:03 PM	#31
Nachos Libres Moderator Elite Car: 2005 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: Underglows Location: Tyler, Texas Posts: 8,939 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Wow, all it takes is a video to start some personal attacks. Let me say this: Anymore personal attacks will lead to a warning and possible ban. Just say your peace about the video if you must but I don't want to see any personal attacks on other members by anyone. And that's great the Scion can do that. I just browsed the Scion forums and saw where the vendor posted this vid and then later on the guy in the STi posted and said he was trying to race. The vendor claims the Scion is pushing 400 whp (I think he said whp) on stock block, pump gas, and alky injection. And for all of those that bought the STi does it really matter if a Scion can beat you? If they can, great for them. I respect a Scion that can do that but they still aren't my cup of tea. This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

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02-11-2006, 05:05 PM	#32
Swine Professional STI Racer Car: 02 Aspen White WRX Fav Mod: wrx-->sti Location: Alpharetta,Ga-Auburn,Al Posts: 705 IWSTI Addict since: May 2005 Trader Rating: (2)	Guys calm down. If you want to feel good about something, atleast you can feel good that the Tc shown is on the upper echelon of its power application. You can also almost garuntee that she is going to pop her top with-in 10k miles. Oh yeah, and all the Toyota supplied S/C kits run like 7 or 9psi tops and make like 200whp tops. Good race, win for the TC.

02-11-2006, 05:07 PM	#34
BluSTi IWSTI Club Level 1 Car: 04 WRB STi Fav Mod: Me! Location: Montana Posts: 13,571 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	I'd like a 400hp Xb, that would be t!ts in my book!! Also, I think if you make a N.A. engine forced induction, then that constitutes as heavily modified. Forced to more forced, not heavily modified, since the majority of the parts were already there. Anyway, that Scion looks hella good too.

02-11-2006, 05:21 PM	#42
91TB78 S204 Racer Car: 06 IX MR Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 3,666 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2002 Trader Rating: (12)	Another thing to think about guys is different gearing between the two cars and the STi's higher drivetrain losses. 2 thumbs up if the tC won...the STi isn't the fastest car in the world.

02-11-2006, 05:25 PM	#44
Chadb Junior STI Driver Car: 01 Jeep Fav Mod: Waiting to buy a STI Location: Junglest Movement,Oh Posts: 183 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	Maybe they should go on that show PINKS. Then we'll really see who has the fast car. (Lose the race lose your car.)