[RayToday]

I've read about it, but haven't seen this vid yet.

Vid: Subie.tv - SUBARU Nurburgring Challenge 2008

Blurb: http://www.chromjuwelen.com/de/partn...h-wrx-sti.html

[mattjk]

6:38. BMW M3 get owned by STi.

[upncummr]

Originally Posted by mattjk

6:38. BMW M3 get owned by STi.

I'm not actually sure that's an M3. It's a BMW for sure, but it could be a lesser model (e.g. 328, 330). In either case, it's definitely not a 2008 BMW M3.

Gary

[mattjk]

Originally Posted by upncummr

I'm not actually sure that's an M3. It's a BMW for sure, but it could be a lesser model (e.g. 328, 330). In either case, it's definitely not a 2008 BMW M3.

Gary

uh, they don't put $100k into a base 328i. that bmw is fully race prepped.

[upncummr]

Originally Posted by mattjk

uh, they don't put $100k into a base 328i. that bmw is fully race prepped.

Sure they do. It all depends on the race class.

Here's a link to Turner Motorsports 325i fully race prepped car. Turner Motorsport Racing - Sponsorship, specializing in high performance parts & accessories for BMW & the New MINI at discount prices.

It's listed as For Sale two-thirds down the page.

FOR SALE:Turner Motorsport BMW E46 325i Drivers: You! Series: Speed WC Touring Car

Gary

[Garrett]

Originally Posted by mattjk

uh, they don't put $100k into a base 328i. that bmw is fully race prepped.

These cars must remain STOCK, cept for safety and other nominal aspects. Thats the challenge!

Secondly, there is a very significant difference between a 328 and an M3. Making your previous statement wrong and misleading. It's OK to love your STI, but no need to bolster it by ridiculous comments .



-Garrett

[upncummr]

Here's a link to the BimmerWorld cars.

Also 325s.

BimmerWorld - Race Proven BMW Performance Parts and OEM Parts

Race prepping a 328 is certainly not out of the question.

Gary

[mattjk]

are you people blind? that yellow m3 has m3 fender vents, just like the turner m3.

[mattjk]

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[upncummr]

Originally Posted by mattjk

are you people blind? that yellow m3 has m3 fender vents, just like the turner m3.

Vents or sponsor decals?

I must be blind because I thought they were sponsor decals.

Vents were the first thing I looked for and I couldn't find clear evidence of vents.

Even if they were vents, it's possible that they'd still be allowed under the rules for the lesser cars (e.g. 325, 328 and 330). I'm certainly not familiar with the class rules for specific cars being run on the Nurbugring.

When I look at the video at 6:36 and evaluate the shape of the air intake for the radiator and brakes, they don't quite look like M3 opening. They look more like 325 or 328 openings. But it's only possible to get a quick glimpse in the video, so it's tough to make the call.

As the cars go past and we're able to see the rear of the BMW it looks like the exhaust opening is on the left rather than in the center. That would be an indication of a 325, 328, or 330 versus the dual openings that an M3 would have.

I could be wrong, but I'm still going to say that it's not an M3.

Gary

[mattjk]

here is another view. 3:45
YouTube - SUBARU Nurburgring Challenge 2008　後編 (オフィシャルæ˜*åƒ�より)
SUBARU Nurburgring Challengeチームは、数々の強豪の中善戦を続けていた. ..BMW M3、BMW Z4 M-Coupe、Porsche 911 GT3など世界一流のアスリートたちだ。いくつかの試練を乗り越 え、徐々に順位を上げていく...レースドキュメント後編


and for reference.

[upncummr]

Originally Posted by mattjk

here is another view. 3:45
YouTube - SUBARU Nurburgring Challenge 2008　後編 (オフィシャルæ˜*像より)

Looks like you might be right. The #83 car was a BMW M3.

Here's a link to the results for the 2008 24 Hours. Result Database - 36. ADAC Zurich 24h-Race

#83 BMW M3 - appears it was a DNF. (Class SP5)

#86 2008 STi - finished 58th - 24 laps back from the overall winner. (Class SP6)

(Winner in SP6 was the BMW Z4 Coupe that finished 4th overall and 4 laps back from the overall winner.)

Other BMW M3s finished in 6th, 24th, 25th, 30th, 33rd, 34th, etc. None that I checked were in the same class as the '08 STi.

By the way, #86 the '08 STi was not the top finisher for Subaru. That was #102 that finished in 40th (Class SP3T).

Gary

[mattjk]

I knew I was right. I don't know why you monkey's were so knee jerked about it.

[upncummr]

Originally Posted by mattjk

I knew I was right. I don't know why you monkey's were so knee jerked about it.

Originally Posted by mattjk

uh, they don't put $100k into a base 328i. that bmw is fully race prepped.

Which part were you right about?

I'm not sure what you mean by knee jerked and I certainly don't know why you're calling anyone a monkey.

But I guess it doesn't really matter.

(There seems to be a general lack of civility in the forums these days.....not just in this thread but in others as well.)

Gary

[torquemada]

yep, it´s a repost

Subaru´s challenge: 24 h Nürburgring