Type-25 suspension - gauging interest for a GB

**Turninconcepts.com** · 01-10-2007, 08:21 AM

Guys - at this point in time this is simply a gauging interest thread, not a for sale thread. I'm putting it here as I'm not really sure where else to put it (mods, sorry about that).

Here's the deal -

AST is making a move back into the US. You may recognize AST as the makers of such setups as the Whiteline G4s and the dampers for the Litchfield T-25.

Part of AST's plan for moving back into the US market is that they have a new master distributor over here. That master distributor will be warehousing, servicing, rebuilding and revalving the AST products.

Over the past few months we've been talking with them, working things out, and basically arranging for getting things for the Scoobies.

One of the first things that we really started to pursue from the beginning of all this is Type-25 setup. After careful talks between us, the new master distributor and AST, they have agreed to supply us with the Type-25 damper setup with the springrates that Litchfield uses.

Now, there's a few things you need to know about the Type-25 setup.

1) It is NOT a track only setup. It's what we call a Sunday/Monday setup. Race on Sunday, drive to work on Monday.
1a) I know this is coming so I'll cover it now. Revalve and respring. We have a number of things in the works for higher rates so you'll be money ahead in getting a stiffer setup out of the box when we bring those over.
2) Because of this S/M setup it has pretty compliant spring rates.
3) We don't agree with the rear spring shape. The Litchfield spring expands at the top to use the stock top hat. We will be matching the rate, but using a barrel spring with an upper perch. The reason for this is flexibility for other hats on the market that you may want to use. Please note - they will still work with your stock hats.
4) Pricing - believe it or not these will not be as expensive as you might think. I will not state price until we start the GB, but we think you'll be rather surprised.

So, my question is this - if we were to offer a group buy on these would there be enough interest to make it worth while?

rmo55c · 01-10-2007, 09:22 AM

sounds ultra sweet, but I will have to stick with my set up currently as I have too much invested =)

seattle sti · 01-10-2007, 09:24 AM

Im in, just let me know more as you get info.

LOLSTi · 01-10-2007, 09:31 AM

Man, I'm so excited.

***boondocksaint*** · 01-10-2007, 09:55 AM

Subscribed.

JJ18Sniper · 01-10-2007, 09:56 AM

Interested

chrono · 01-10-2007, 10:55 AM

interested!

**La Mer** · 01-10-2007, 10:56 AM

interestingly interested.

**twiSTies** · 01-10-2007, 11:03 AM

what is all included in the kit?

**La Mer** · 01-10-2007, 11:11 AM

More info here: http://www.type-25.com/chassis.asp#3

***JPWEraser*** · 01-10-2007, 12:00 PM

Oh... my... god. I'm in. Subscribed! The Type-25 is without a doubt the most neutral handling STi that I've seen across all the videos on the net that I've run across. Man, I've been looking for a good setup to get away from the stock dampers!!

**Turninconcepts.com** · 01-10-2007, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twiSTies

what is all included in the kit?

We're talking about the coilovers in this case. The bars and ALK are whiteline's. Figure we should have no problem getting that stuff for folks.

**twiSTies** · 01-10-2007, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turninconcepts.com

We're talking about the coilovers in this case. The bars and ALK are whiteline's. Figure we should have no problem getting that stuff for folks.

thats what i was thinking from the pics posted before of their setup, i just wanted to make sure that thats indeed all the kit actually is over there.

i'm still interested in the pricing for the AST's, will they also come with the gold adjustment extenders for the rear?

rmo55c · 01-10-2007, 12:27 PM

i wish i could rethink my tein coilovers and cusco sways for all of this - would probably be night and day difference

***nandanrp*** · 01-10-2007, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turninconcepts.com

We're talking about the coilovers in this case. The bars and ALK are whiteline's. Figure we should have no problem getting that stuff for folks.

Any idea what size Whiteline bars they run?

01-10-2007, 08:21 AM	#1
Turninconcepts.com Authorized Vendor Car: 04/08STI 95SVX 86E30 Posts: 5,342 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2003 Trader Rating: (53)	Type-25 suspension - gauging interest for a GB Guys - at this point in time this is simply a gauging interest thread, not a for sale thread. I'm putting it here as I'm not really sure where else to put it (mods, sorry about that). Here's the deal - AST is making a move back into the US. You may recognize AST as the makers of such setups as the Whiteline G4s and the dampers for the Litchfield T-25. Part of AST's plan for moving back into the US market is that they have a new master distributor over here. That master distributor will be warehousing, servicing, rebuilding and revalving the AST products. Over the past few months we've been talking with them, working things out, and basically arranging for getting things for the Scoobies. One of the first things that we really started to pursue from the beginning of all this is Type-25 setup. After careful talks between us, the new master distributor and AST, they have agreed to supply us with the Type-25 damper setup with the springrates that Litchfield uses. Now, there's a few things you need to know about the Type-25 setup. 1) It is NOT a track only setup. It's what we call a Sunday/Monday setup. Race on Sunday, drive to work on Monday. 1a) I know this is coming so I'll cover it now. Revalve and respring. We have a number of things in the works for higher rates so you'll be money ahead in getting a stiffer setup out of the box when we bring those over. 2) Because of this S/M setup it has pretty compliant spring rates. 3) We don't agree with the rear spring shape. The Litchfield spring expands at the top to use the stock top hat. We will be matching the rate, but using a barrel spring with an upper perch. The reason for this is flexibility for other hats on the market that you may want to use. Please note - they will still work with your stock hats. 4) Pricing - believe it or not these will not be as expensive as you might think. I will not state price until we start the GB, but we think you'll be rather surprised. So, my question is this - if we were to offer a group buy on these would there be enough interest to make it worth while? This ad is not endorsed by this member. Please register or login to hide this ad.

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01-10-2007, 09:22 AM	#2
rmo55c Silver Member Car: 05 WRB STi Fav Mod: PWT Points Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 973 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2004 Trader Rating: (2)	sounds ultra sweet, but I will have to stick with my set up currently as I have too much invested =)

01-10-2007, 09:24 AM	#3
seattle sti Junior STI Driver Car: 2005 Subaru Aspen Wh Fav Mod: Cobb Springs Location: Seattle, Wa Posts: 151 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2005 Trader Rating: (0)	Im in, just let me know more as you get info.

01-10-2007, 09:31 AM	#4
LOLSTi S204 Racer Car: RIP 02 WRX Fav Mod: 2004 Aspen White WRX STi Location: Cincinnati Posts: 3,614 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2005 Trader Rating: (1)	Man, I'm so excited.

01-10-2007, 09:55 AM	#5
*boondocksaint* approved this message. Car: Boony's Motown STi Fav Mod: 8-track tape deck, AM Radio Location: D3TR01T Posts: 23,112 IWSTI Addict since: Jun 2006 Trader Rating: (6)	Subscribed.

01-10-2007, 09:56 AM	#6
JJ18Sniper Silver Member Car: 05 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: DB 20G, Diamond Black BBS RE's, S2K retrofit Location: NY Posts: 4,638 IWSTI Addict since: Jul 2004 Trader Rating: (7)	Interested

01-10-2007, 10:55 AM	#7
chrono STI Driver Car: 06' Aspen White STI Fav Mod: Girlfriend Location: SOCAL Posts: 215 IWSTI Addict since: Mar 2006 Trader Rating: (0)	interested!

01-10-2007, 10:56 AM	#8
La Mer NIИja Location: US - Southern California Posts: 38,256 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	interestingly interested.

01-10-2007, 11:03 AM	#9
twiSTies Gold Member Car: 05 Subaru WRX STi Fav Mod: T2s and Recaros Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 3,337 IWSTI Addict since: Oct 2005 Trader Rating: (7)	what is all included in the kit?

01-10-2007, 11:11 AM	#10
La Mer NIИja Location: US - Southern California Posts: 38,256 IWSTI Addict since: Jan 2006 Trader Rating: (5)	More info here: http://www.type-25.com/chassis.asp#3

01-10-2007, 12:00 PM	#11
*JPWEraser* Platinum Member Car: 05 STi Fav Mod: Do Luck CF Location: East TN Posts: 1,587 IWSTI Addict since: May 2005 Trader Rating: (6)	Oh... my... god. I'm in. Subscribed! The Type-25 is without a doubt the most neutral handling STi that I've seen across all the videos on the net that I've run across. Man, I've been looking for a good setup to get away from the stock dampers!!

01-10-2007, 12:27 PM	#14
rmo55c Silver Member Car: 05 WRB STi Fav Mod: PWT Points Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 973 IWSTI Addict since: Dec 2004 Trader Rating: (2)	i wish i could rethink my tein coilovers and cusco sways for all of this - would probably be night and day difference